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Miggo
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11-22-2004, 02:59 PM
Post subject: First time, scared to death ...
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2004
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I'm new to Holdem and been playing online at PP and PS. Been in a ring game with lhoney a couple times. Kinda fun seeing people from the forum in games. Anyway, my wife and I went to a Bingo/Casino in Milwaukee, WI that has a pokerroom. We had never seen it before and took $100 and just went on Friday. It's called Potawatomi, it's Indian Bingo/Casino place downtown.
We got there about 11:30 and signed up for the 2/4 table. We had to leave by 3:30 to pick our dughter up from school, so we couldn't play long if at all. They gave us pagers, and we got on a table about 1:45. After an hour I was down about $40 mainly due to limping in with marginal hands hoping for a flop. I was big blind and everyone folded around once and I won my first pot.  The next hand I was dealt QQ, and got a Q on the flop and legitamately won my first pot. What you have to realize too, is that my hands are shaking the whole time I'm there, I don't know why, they just are. I can't take a couple chips off the stack, to throw in the pot. I have to grab a bunch of the stack and slide a couple chips off with my thumb because I shake so bad. Anyway, this is where the fun part starts...
I still don't know exactly what a kill pot is, but after I won with the set of Q's I had the kill button which put you automatically in with a big bet. I get dealt Qd 9d, (from now on my favorite hand). Someone raised, and it was $2 to me. I was already in for $4, and we had to leave soon so I called. Flop came, 2 more diamonds. A guy bet, I called, everyone folded, except for a guy behind me raised, the other guy and I both called. Turn came, a rag for me but left a straight draw on the table. Guy in front of me bet, I called, last guy raised, then a raise and a call. River card came. Another diamond. Everything got kind of blurry after this, trying not to have an accident. I think it put a straight on the board, I didn't really notice. Up until now, I don't think the other two guys even thought of me in the pot, they were on one side of the dealer and I was to the dealers left. The guy to the dealers right checks, I bet. The guy last swears, and says "He got a flush", meaning me. He folds. The guy to the right of the dealer, says something asking about me getting a flush> The dealer got kind of upset with however he said it or something and told him it would cost him $4 to see. And someone else at the table said something like, "Unless you want to raise", and kinda laughed. He called and I turned over the flush.
My wife had cashed out and was standing nearby, but I had to stay for one more kill pot. I still don't understand those. Anyway, I play while I'm stacking this pile of chips into a chip tray, and am dealt a T 4. A lady a couple behind me raises to 6, the kill pot 4, plus 2, Everyone else either folds or calls, and I call. Why I don't know. Probably because I was putting chips in the tray and just grabbed 2 and threw them in the pot. Flop comes T 4 7. Two pair, she bets, I raise, she calls, and I end up cracking her AA with two pair. I catch my wife, pointing at her watch and I nod, "Yea, I know." because we have to leave. I ended up folding garbage on the last hand, and leave. I end up cashing in up $72, making over 100 in the last 20 minutes.
Yep, I want to go back again. I think it'd be a great game to play if you have the time to be patient and only play proper hands, because it seemed to me that an awful lot of people were paying to see the flop.
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mike4066
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Congrats on your first live action trip to a casion.
The shaking hands is common with people playing live action for the first time.. Mine do it also, heck mine shake when I take a big pot online!
Kill pot = double the limit!
If someone wins 2 hands in a row its a "kill pot" meaing the 2/4 game just now became a 4/8 game.
There is also a 1/2 kill, so a 2/4 game would become a 3/6 game.. but you usually only see 1/2 kill @ 10/20 games.
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Miggo
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2004
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A nice guy that was sitting next to me said that about the shaking hands. I really think I could do ok there if I could sit there for a longer period of time at a session, get a chance to see how people play, and to have the chance to play your own game rather than feeling like I had to play so loose because I was only going to be there for a short time.
Hmmm, I wonder if I could sneak out for 6 or 8 hours after everyone takes a nap after eating turkey.  It's ok if my wife reads this because she wants to go again too.
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stevedonel
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Vegas
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The shaking hands thing is just your body's way of relieving tension. After a while you woulnt shake every time you bet. I still shake on the big hands, and I've played live games 5-7 nights a week for the past year.
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Is that guy still part of the forum??
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Humphrind
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kansas City
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I am not a nervous person anyway. If I could describe myself in any way, I would say that I am un-enthusiastic. I just can't get excited about anything.
But I still got a little excited when I had a big hand at the casino. But I just focused on something else. I treated my bets like the were in disgust or with a "whatever" attitude. It seemed to work out. But those bets also don't get a lot of respect.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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Miggo
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2004
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It sure is a weird feeling. When I had QQ and a Q came on the flop, I would swear everyone within 30 feet of me knew I flopped a set and they were all just pretending they didn't. It makes you feel like they would call your raise because they had something better I just couldn't see, and then they would all make fun of you for betting so stupid when they beat you. And then after the hand a couple people say, "Nice hand" and you feel like they don't mean it, even though they might.
I thought it would be close to playing with friends and relatives at home, but for me anyway, it's not even close. I have a different view on what might be going through peoples minds when you watch them on T.V. if they turn into basket cases inside like I was. I think it will be a while before I can stone cold bluff someone in a casino without having a stroke or passing out.
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aveadams
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Memphis
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Hello all, been reading the site for a little while, this is my first post.
I know this is an old topic, but I had to share my experience.
First time ever playing in a B&M casino, I played a $20 buy in tourney with $10 add-ons/rebuys. I was so nervous when I sat down I had to keep my eyes closed and remind myself that this was "Just a sit & go, done it 100 times before".
The second hand of the tournament (88 entries), I caught QQ in the BB. Got a couple of callers in the middle, then the button, who looks like a shark to me (I think even the old blue haired ladies looked like sharks to me right then) pops it for T$200 more. We only started out with 1500 in chips so 200 is alot! I keep thinking "I should raise here" but I can't do it. I fumble around my stacks, knocking a couple of them over, fish out 200 and manage to squeak out "Call". The two callers in the middle also called.
The flop came Rag, Rag QUEEN. I am freaked out. I check because I am afraid to bet. Check, check, T500 on the button. I call, one folds, one calls.
Ace comes on the turn, I check, check, button fires 500 more. So if I call this I'm pot committed with only 300 in chips left, but as far as I can tell I have the nuts unless someone has AA down. I just call, other guy calls.
Now the river brings a -- QUEEN! I have to double check my cards, I can't beleive I just hit quads on my first hand in a casino.
So I am shaking so bad right now I cant pick up any chips, I just kinda slide my last 300 out and say "all in". Call, Call.
so i flip em over and everyone kinda lets out a gasp. The button pats the table and says "Nice hand". He showed me his AK.
So I more than tripled up on my first hand of the tourney.
I made it to first break only taking a couple of more (relatively) small pots, then regrouped and reminded myself I was one of the big stacks and I should play like I know how to play. Got alot more agressive and ended up placing 9th, just In the money. Got knocked out on a fairly longshot draw, It was a bad beat, but I didn't care, I was happy with my finish.
Been back several more times over the last few months since then, I almost feel like a pro when I play there now 
Never realized how many bad players there were, If I had, I might have been able to play those quad queens without nearly passing out.
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Xianti
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Wow, aveadams! Nice freakin' hand! The best hand I'd gotten in a B&M was flopping two more sixes to my pocket 66. Slowplayed it, of course, and the other guy ended up making a full house on the turn with his pocket 99. I bet a little on the river and, to my glee, he came over the top to move all-in.
So.. since you'd been going back, has the nervousness and hand-shaking subsided? I guess I'd never experienced too much of that nervous energy because I'd been going to Vegas since I was 21 (am 34 now) to play blackjack. After learning to play poker online and playing some home games with friends, making the switch to B&M poker wasn't too intimidating.
Welcome to FTR.
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aveadams
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Memphis
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NH for you also 8-)
To answer your question, the nervousness is completely gone most of the time. Sometimes when it is a really big pot or other unusuall circumstances, I still get a little shakey.
I've been playing blackjack for about three years in the casino, played in home games too, but this was very different (in my mind anyway). I have been playing an aggressive/tight style online very successfully for about two years, and I knew my game was fundamentally more sound and profitable than 90% (or more) of the people I would run into in the casino, but for some reason I convinced myself that they were all great players *shrug*
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aveadams
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Memphis
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By the way,
Your avatar is "Freakin' awesome"
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lonnie
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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After dealing B&M games for the past two months....I have seen a lot of shaking hands. I have seen very few shaking hands lose unless they get beat by a draw on the river or something. Shaking hands=very strong cards, usually. Some people just seem to shake no matter what though, so pay attention.
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hagakure
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
After dealing B&M games for the past two months....I have seen a lot of shaking hands. I have seen very few shaking hands lose unless they get beat by a draw on the river or something. Shaking hands=very strong cards, usually. Some people just seem to shake no matter what though, so pay attention.
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Where do you deal Lonnie?
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storm75m
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 6MAX-NL - Houston
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I've been playing online for almost a year, but have never played in a B&M game before. I found a card room about 30 minutes from the house, but I still can't build up the nerve to actually go.
Is the competition usually better or worse than online? I know i have a sound "technical" game, but I fear they will see right through me or something. Also, what is the best game I should jump into for the first time? I think they offer 1/2PL, 1/2NL, $50NL Tournament with 1 rebuy (about 30 players) $100NL Tournament, no rebuys. They have higher limits as well, but I only have about $200 to burn. So I guess the question is ring or tournament on the first try?
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Lack of Discipline and Over-Confidence... The root of all poker evil.
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LockLow34
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Ashburn, VA
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Originally Posted by storm75m
I've been playing online for almost a year, but have never played in a B&M game before. I found a card room about 30 minutes from the house, but I still can't build up the nerve to actually go.
Is the competition usually better or worse than online? I know i have a sound "technical" game, but I fear they will see right through me or something. Also, what is the best game I should jump into for the first time? I think they offer 1/2PL, 1/2NL, $50NL Tournament with 1 rebuy (about 30 players) $100NL Tournament, no rebuys. They have higher limits as well, but I only have about $200 to burn. So I guess the question is ring or tournament on the first try?
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The competition is much worse in a card room, IMO. Most of the time the folks playing live are there to gamble it up, play way too loose, and end up donating to those of us who have a clue. I don't play more than 1/2 or 50NL online, but regularly play 3/6, 4/8, 5/10, and 150NL in my local cardroom.
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"How deep is the money?" - Fnord
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lonnie
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Where do you deal Lonnie?
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Argosy casino in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
7 tables.
Typically spread 2 3/6's, 3 4/8's, 1 10/20, and 1 NL game.
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hagakure
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
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Where do you deal Lonnie?
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Argosy casino in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
7 tables.
Typically spread 2 3/6's, 3 4/8's, 1 10/20, and 1 NL game. |
You got PM sir.
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