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Old 06-08-2009, 11:20 PM     Post subject: First Live Tournament - AQo On The Bubble #1 (permalink)  
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Been playing pretty decent online and I noticed there's was a tournament tonight at my local casino.. hopped in the car just for the experience basically.

Buy in was 80€+20€
31 people

Payout for the first 4

Final Table: 5 people left

Blinds 400/800 with 60 ante.

SB: +/-12000
Villain (BB): 18000 +
UTG: +/- 5500
UTG+1: +/- 5500
Hero(BTN): +/- 8500



UTG folds, UTG + 1 folds,

I'm on the BTN with AQo

I raise to 2400
SB folds,
BB raises 11k which was AI for me.

He was playing pretty LAGG poker throughout the tournament, seen him push and call AI with 92o and stuff.
He said "if you fold I'll show you my hand, don't want you to bubble out"
My thought was he thinks I'm stealing, and pushing with ATC as it was the bubble and I'd only call with QQ+

PS: he was either a dutch pro or a decent reg at the casino(or both), he knew a lot of people there and pretty much outplayed many villains. Talked about tv play and probably had a decent understanding of ICM aswell.

You call the all in or fold here?
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:29 PM #2 (permalink)  
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With five of you left, and only 4 getting ITM I'd fold and wait for a better moment to increase the stack.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Allright.. any more thoughts?
 
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:21 AM #4 (permalink)  
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My thoughts:
o 20% rake sucks
o He sounds like he's got a hand
o I would be playing push/fold here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:18 AM #5 (permalink)  
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You have an M of 6.
If you are going to raise, go all in.
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:18 AM #6 (permalink)  
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^ as above ^
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:33 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Obv all in or fold would have been better, but once you made a bet your in a bad position.

Villain says he doesn't want to bubble you out, but that's exactly what he wants. His offering to show if you fold. If you fold and he shows you 72o or anything you had a good chance of beating you might get a little tilty.

If you call the raise and loose he knocks you out of the game, and he is up to 18M+.

If you fold he's up to 14M+ with the next chipstack at only 8M and the rest of the table at 4M or less.

If you call and win he's 3rd highest chip stack with 6M+ and two short stacks fighting to beat the bubble.

I think I would fold after the re-raise and hope that one of the other small stacks gets good enough cards to go all-in but busts.
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:38 PM     Post subject: Reply #8 (permalink)  

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My guess is you more then likely are hold the best hand in this position he could easily have AT, AJ, AX or any two high cards here and thinking your stealing and trying to get you off your hand and also saying the don't want you to bubble to get fear in you. However if you do fold you are still third in chips and the short stacks are going into the blinds so is it worth risking all your chips and not making the money to you? My answer probably not. At best he will still be able to drawl out on you and put you out of the trny. The reward is not worth the risk to me here.
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:57 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Yes I agree with above posts, I either should've folded or pushed when I was to act. But I didn't. So let's look at how it went down, I bet about 3x BB.

When he re-raised me all-in I should've considered the consequences. If I won the hand, I'd have a decent stack but like DJvinson said, it's not worth the risk bubbling out.

I called his bet mainly on me putting him on a fairly wide range and not considering that even if I was ahead it wouldn't be more than 60/40 which isn't worth risking the bubble imo. (?)

His talking kinda influenced me, I called and he flipped over AKs. "told ya you shuda folded".

I looked the guy up, he's been a pro since '05 so he knew what he was doing: Stieven Razab-Sekh. (makes me feel better i actually lost to a pro as this was my 1st casino live game haha)

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It was a nice experience though, I'm only 19 years old and I was the youngest at the final table, made some incredible nice plays if I may say so myself, didn't expect to come so far to be honest.
Too bad about the bubble play - but I guess you learn from your mistakes.

PS: @ Fnord: yes the rake is kinda huge

Anyone has advice on books/articles or whatever you can do to improve your tournament play? (online and live)
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bad bet, ok.
tilt: never.
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