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dalecooper
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01-12-2005, 04:20 PM
Post subject: Do the cards always speak?
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Question - how common is the rule that "the cards speak"? Is it pretty much universal? I had always thought so, but my friend - who is hosting a tournament in his home in about a month - announced that for his tourney, the cards don't speak. You have to call your own hand to win. I've never heard of anyone doing this and frankly I think it's retarded, but I'm curious to hear if I am alone in this.
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cards speak. always.
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Xianti
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01-12-2005, 04:53 PM
Post subject: Re: Do the cards always speak?
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Originally Posted by dalecooper
frankly I think it's retarded
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dalecooper
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Happily, after much pressure from me, he gave up on this notion. Cards will speak in this game. He said part of the reason was that last year's tournament featured some newb who was calling down all bets and sucking out on the river without even knowing what he had... but to me, the punishment for that crime ought to be self-evident (i.e. people who don't know their own hand usually lose, quickly).
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Jes_Gru
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House rules will override common sense and knowledge.
Good to hear that you got him to change his house rule.
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I dunno...The house game I play in, the cards are NEVER supposed to speak. If you're not in the hand, you need to STFU. If a winning hand goes unnoticed, people aren't supposed to say anything. I see why this is valuable, but I can also see why it could be B.S. I've seen people win hands when they've been counterfitted (and they say they have two pair), and I've seen people lose to two pair when they have a straight (and don't see it). That's the only way I've ever played, so that's all I ever know.
I take it playing like this is really busch league?
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Someone may muck a winning hand on accident but any hands that are turned over speak for themselves.
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Xianti
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It is the dealers job to:
-keep the game moving smoothly
-ensure all pots are right
-award the pot to the correct person
There are only 5 things a player ever needs to say besides $ values at a hold'em game and most of these are optional:
"check" "fold" "call" "bet" "raise"
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I dunno. I play home games where the cards don't speak. You're supposed to figure out what the hell you have. :P
I remember way back when when I first learned to play poker, I got a full house and read it off as "two pair" and promptly lost to somebody else's "two pair". Then, after the other guy took the chips off the table, everyone promptly announced that I had won the hand.
I dunno...I figure "cards speak" would be better. I was worse than a fish then, since I couldn't read the cards correctly, but I still should have won that hand.
Worst part? The flop came and I was like "I have three of a kind. Woohoo!!!"
Too bad that hand took me all in.
Now that I know the game and actually KNOW usually what the hands should be at, it's not so much of a problem, but having been that fish taht lost, but won...I like cards speaking. :P
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