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11-17-2009, 04:29 AM Post subject: Cheated?

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I play in a weekly self dealt $10 poker game at a pub. The standard of play is very low but the banter is extremely high, the crowd is friendly and the same ppl most weeks.

I think i was cheated by a couple of players that I've had some suspicions about for some time. They are both extremely sharp and see things about 30 seconds before any of the other players, myself included. ie reading boards, chip handling errors, chip stacks, misdeals, etc. They hang around together when they do both come. And live in the same area. Cagey about poker background.

The game is a nice format 6max game, normally like a 9 to 12 ppl sng with the early losers playing in a 4/5 handed $5 side game half way through night. I don't usually play in the side games but did this time round.

One of the TBC cheaters is a regular that turns up week in week out and does pretty well, (as do I-ish). The other turns up every other week and rarely seem to do well in main sng but has a solid game imo.

I was playing in the side game, which I rarely play in. When a few things made me think hang on a sec here. wtf. Things that they could prolly get pass less observant ppl.

But before that. Regular is out. As is fortnightly player. I am still in with above av stack. Regular is persistent on dealing final table. I am in SB, and find myself with AKs, niiice... utg raise. I 3bet shove into chip leader (99) and am out of the game. Maybe this is just poker or maybe reg wanted me to stack a weaker player????? This hand is exactly after break before final table. He then gets ups and doesnt deal anymore... wtf? at the time 4players out and umming and erhing about starting side game or wait for 1 more. reg. fortinghtly and cash cow fish and me are 4 to side game. Thought crosses my mind that reg possibly wants to get side game started before CC decides to leave, maybe even 2 side games in one night?? deck rigged? What should I be looking for if I think this player is doing this....if it was AA then deffo but AKs.. rly? Am I being paranoid.

Then.. same player is ruined by CC, whilst short stacked he tries to squeeze extra 5 mins out of a 15 min clock before we raise the blinds. Persistent that they shouldnt be raised until when he says, which is clearly 5 mins too late. shit like that just doesnt get past me, as I always keep an eye on blinds in these games as they are notoriously bad.

During the game. he is out of hand. Dealing and I see his hand hover above deck from left to rigth while I am looking at my cards. like a "no" kind of signal to fortnightly.... ? I am in BB. Fortnightly is in SB. Its blind on blind. Comments on this???????

Reg is out. Twice in HU we were dealt identical Broadways Ace, King low kickers but I ended up with the weaker one in both situations. And blinds are in push fold mode.

Lastly I loose in HU and I see reg make a chopping signal to fortnigtly player. At this point I thought this is pretty comical rly. These 2 are a complete joke... doing this in a measley $5 sng.

I want to confirm some of my suspicions before making other all players aware. Should I just briefly mention to savvier players in meantime for confirmation? I am not much of a live player as the games are pretty scarce in my area but i hold my own versus these players, no one leads or organises this game, its kind of a shared game. Any advice/comments wld be appreciated.

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