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Illfavor
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09-25-2009, 02:19 AM
Post subject: Bankroll for live poker
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Full House
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I play 100nl FR online and live in a place where I have 2 casinos within 3 minutes drive and like 3 more a little further, yet never go. I don't play to live and am wondering how much $$ I should have in my BR to play 200NL live. I've played some 3/6 live and those games were incredibly fishy.
Thoughts?
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pokerfan
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25-30 buy-ins for 1-2NL donkfest cash. Table selection is the key to live success IMO.  Sometimes you can make more than $1K in one session when donators keep pumping in money :P
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Prophet
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If you dont use to play live i don't recommend you to play high stake.
You will need over 10k $ and i'm not sure if you will meet one fish at those stakes.
Anyway I wish you luck in your attempt.
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Micro2Macro
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
25-30 buy-ins for 1-2NL donkfest cash. Table selection is the key to live success IMO. Sometimes you can make more than $1K in one session when donators keep pumping in money :P |
what kind of hourly do you think is attinable at $1-$2NL live assuming 100bb buyins, a not so shitty rake structure, and half-assed table selection?
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Jason
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I just started a new thread to discuss win-rates, because I think it deserves its own discussion. As for bankroll, I still think having a 30 buy-in minimum is key to make regular visits and if you're planning to make a living playing live, you'll probably want 100 buy-ins. Obviously that's just my opinion and I'm no expert, but variance is real live just as much as it is online. For ALL poker, though, the bigger your edge, the lower your variance should be.
I personally play a lot of home games to try to build my casino bankroll plus the occasional casino visit.
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oskar
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How often do we really need to restart the BRM discussion? It's about winrate, standard deviation, comfort level and how much risk you're willing to take. imo when you hit 30BI it should be the point where you drop down... or should have dropped down a long time ago.
If you're comfortable with dumping 1/5 of your BR in a bad session, then go ahead.
I'm winning @100NL online over a large sample, and made about 17k... but I'm down 4BI @1/1 live over 5 sessions - which plays like 2NL ldo.
It's still poker... and 5 sessions is a ridiculously small sample.
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
25-30 buy-ins for 1-2NL donkfest cash. Table selection is the key to live success IMO. Sometimes you can make more than $1K in one session when donators keep pumping in money :P |
what kind of hourly do you think is attinable at $1-$2NL live assuming 100bb buyins, a not so shitty rake structure, and half-assed table selection? |
$20-30 per hour is very attainable. Are there any big donators in your local casino ? If so, it should definitely boost your overall win rate IMO.
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by oskar
How often do we really need to restart the BRM discussion? It's about winrate, standard deviation, comfort level and how much risk you're willing to take. imo when you hit 30BI it should be the point where you drop down... or should have dropped down a long time ago.
If you're comfortable with dumping 1/5 of your BR in a bad session, then go ahead.
I'm winning @100NL online over a large sample, and made about 17k... but I'm down 4BI @1/1 live over 5 sessions - which plays like 2NL ldo.
It's still poker... and 5 sessions is a ridiculously small sample.
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yeah, some bad sessions could hurt your bankroll. Good players can easily lose 2-3 buy-ins on bad nights and win more than 4 buy-ins on good big nights. 30 buy-ins is enough for 1/2NL cash IMO.
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Illfavor
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Full House
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Thanks for the info.
Oskar you can easily just ignore the BRM discussions if you they bother you...I don't play live and felt compelled to ask live players, since I really know very little about the dynamic.
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SevenOfHearts32
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I haven't really gambled in any online poker yet, and my offline bets have been a bit on the conservative side, and I generally steer clear of any high stakes games. Taking larger risks can be good sometimes, but only if you think you can afford it. Quite clearly, I can't! :P
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stinger
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The casinos in my area make it very simple for us to buy in
1/3 no mor than 300.00 no less than 100.00
You cant take chips out of your pocket unit your below the 300.00
In fact last night a newbee had 300.00 in red with a black chip on top and the dealer made him put the black in his pocket.
Sorry to say after about 10 hands he was able to retrive the black chip.
The higher limit games follow the same rules.
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MAXX101
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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I've been playing online for a little more then a year, I got 2 casino' here in town, been to one of them once,they only have pot limit cash games,but I decided I wanted to try live,there's a bar that has a poker league, I play there, alot of online players there, from my experience, starting out stay with the low buyin stuff until you get a feel for playing live, reading (tells)man there sitting right there,when you can sit there with pocket A's and nobody can tell what your holding, its a great feeling then you know you are actually learning something!! Good Luck its alot of fun, except you can scratch yourself like you normally do cuz theres people sitting there lol
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