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koolmoe
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06-16-2004, 05:57 PM
Post subject: Automatic shufflers for home games
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Drowning in prosperity
Posts: 1,279
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A couple of the guys that play in my home game object to playing Hold 'em because the play is so fast that we spend a lot of time shuffling (as opposed to 7-stud, for example). I think it is primarily because they are not particularly adept shufflers.
The last time we played, I tried to solve this problem by using extra decks and shuffling during the deal, but this caused me to miss my ante upon occasion and generally decreased my enjoyment of play.
Has anyone used an automatic shuffler for their home play? I would like to hold a NL tourney in a month or two, and I think it would almost be mandatory to have a two or four deck shuffler to make it fly with my bunch.
I would appreciate any feedback (good or bad) on shufflers you might have used.
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Humphrind
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kansas City
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How many people play in your games. When we play with 8 or more people, we use 2 decks. With 8 or fewer, we play with 1 deck.
I think the biggest difference is that we play mostly for fun. Keep the game slow and the talk loud. We have plenty of opportunities to play hard, serious poker. We just play a round game to have fun mostly.
As far as card shufflers, don't go cheap. I had bought one because it was only $15 and I wanted to see if it was any good. It wasn't. It was cheap and didn't shuffle well and cumbersome to use. I'm sure there are very good ones out there, but you are still going to have to play with 2 decks, shuffle one while playing another.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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Natrix
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 49
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Shufflers aren't a bad idea, if you can handle the noise, size, and occasional card sticking to the side of the deposit. We also had some people at our home game who weren't the most adept shufflers, and it seemed we were spending so much time at it, even with 2 decks circling.
Pros:
Quicker for slow shufflers, Saves your hands, they aren't expensive, No Bent Cards, Easy to use.
Cons:
Bulky at a small table, loud, cards sometimes stick on inside wall, and slower for people who know how to shuffle quickly.
Its up to you, but for a 10-15 dollar investment, its not a bad attempt just to see if it helps or not. We went back to the good old 2 deck/small blind person shuffles the next deck method. It seems to work better as long as you put your small blind out before you start shuffling. 
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koolmoe
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Drowning in prosperity
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Humphrind, I guess I misunderstood what a two or four deck shuffler is. 
There are generally 6-8 at my home game, so we use one deck. Thought maybe a two deck shuffler would shuffle two decks individually rather than two decks together. I see this is not the case as I've been browsing online.
I think I would like to offer it as an option for those who don't shuffle well. I'm no David Blaine, but I'm a pretty decent shuffler. I just don't want to be shuffling every other hand for those that don't like to or aren't good at it.
Thanks for the tips.
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cHoCoL@Te
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 24
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I think FTR should sell a shuffler!
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johnnyawe
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Francisco
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Hey, Xianti, you should move this to the "home games" forum. Man, you must be slipping! Normally you have stuff moved like minutes after the post goes up!
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Xianti
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Administrator
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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{Moved from FTR Community}
Thanks for keeping me on my toes, Natural.
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Ibizan
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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I caught part of a tourney on TV right before the Super Bowl two weeks ago. I think it was on NBC or Fox. I'm pretty sure they were using an automatic shuffler because they kept mentioning it "to ensure the randomness of the deal". I can't remember the name of it though but that's the one I'd go for if I was looking for a shuffler. 
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UG
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Wow, nice first post. You bring up a topic from EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
Jeff, is that you? haha
Welcome to FTR, dude.
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Corey
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 1,349
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lol
just get 2 decks, the SB shuffles the non used deck and so on.
great job on bringing threads back from the dead
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Corey
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cartilago77
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Tijuana Donkey Show
Posts: 180
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We tried an automatic shuffler once. And I do mean once. Took it out of the box and "shuffled" one hand with it. Stick with the 2 deck method. Works great for us.
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