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baudib
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11-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Post subject: AKo vs. UTG shortstack shove + UTG+1 call
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This hand was the subject of much debate...
Situation: This is a very soft $1/$2 game with a lot of crazy players. Hand previous to this, UTG shoved all-in shortstacked with K9s, got called by a reasonably decent player makes a loose call in EP with A3o. They ran it 3 times...shortstack won twice, giving her $47.
Now, she's UTG, goes all in, same guy calls her. Pot is $97. I'm sitting with $350 and AKo; there are 6 left to act...I'm second biggest stack at table, most of them range between $50-$250, with one stack around $600.
It is true I probably have more of a tourney mentality than most here, but calling seems awful and folding seems ridiculous when I have their ranges crushed. Calling invites midpairs and SCs to call in position; I think my FE is extremely high -- as much as people are gambling and splashing around with garbage, I don't think anyone is too eager to flip for stacks except maybe some of the smaller stacks.
Is there any other move than an all-in?
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oskar
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This would be more interesting if you had 300bb effective and more 200bb+ stacks behind.
For 350 I think this is a pretty obvious jamming spot. - it's basically a semi-bluff against the rest of the table, and fine for value against the shortstack all-in. I think you have tons of fold equity.
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baudib
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thanks, I figured but just wanted affirmation. 1 guy with $250 folded QQ and someone with $200 folded TT, and there was a lot of debate about it. UTG had AJo and UTG+1 folded 66. Frankly I'd be happy to call off 125 BBs in that spot with QQ considering the dead money in the pot...
There was a lot of criticism of how I played it but I didn't see any other way.
In a similar situation later in the night, I shoved KK with $125 already in a straddled pot.
With 300 BBs do I call or 3-bet small?
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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Fnord
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All-in.
Folding QQ is soooo LOL. I get my money in with JJ too and I would also get it in with TT and 99 if I could close the action.
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