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8 aces in two hands...a long but worthy story
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hagakure
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07-20-2005, 01:04 AM
Post subject: 8 aces in two hands...a long but worthy story
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 215
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Saturday night, local B&M, I am dealt ATo in the first position. I call the $3 bet, 4 others call, SB completes, BB checks. Seven players seeing the flop, which comes out AAA. SB and BB checks, so while I am concentrating on the most important poker face in poker history, I bet $3 thinking that I will get some decent action but all but two other players fold including SB and BB. The table is completely paralyzed by seeing those babies on the flop and I am about to cry because I am realizing that I am not going to make shit off of flopping quad aces. Turn card is something of no importance what so ever so I check. The other two players, one of whom seems to play every single hand and bet every round of every hand all the way down to the river where he usually bails out, also check. River card is also useless to anyone...I bet $6 and the two others fold like their cards are on fire. Total pot size for the biggest monster hand ever in my short but rocky poker career: $36, $12 of which I put in.
Two or three hours later, same table, mostly the same people, I am dealt AA in the SB. 4 callers, I raise and everyone else calls except for one person who folds. Five players seeing the flop which comes out AA3. I can't believe what I am seeing but I check hoping that it will make my preflop raise look like KK instead of AA. To my sheer amazement everyone checks around. The turn card comes, and I don't remember exactly what it was but it wasn't anything too spectaular because I bet $6 and get one single call. The river card is something pretty unimpressive as well. I notice that when it comes out the one person left in the hand with me is rather visibly upset and he shows his cards to the person next to him and they both just shake their heads. Looking at the board, I notice that there are two clubs out (came out on the flop) so I think he obviously missed his flush. I bet, he folds in a very animated fashion which exposes his cards over...sure enough, two clubs. Total win for the second showing of the biggest monster hand ever in my short but rocky poker career: $51, my contribution: $18.
I end up with a net of only $57 after flopping two absolute moster hands in three hours of play. I wish that last guy would have made his flush and I was pissed because the odds of him doing that were pretty good and it would have made me a little bit more money. However, the odds of making a flush when flopping a draw catch up to me later when I am holding KJ, flop the K high straight, bet my ass off, and lose when the guy across from me makes his flush when a 5s comes out on the river. Overall it was a good and interesting night.
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
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Well, um...
First hand you kind of played pretty crappily, calling a raise (is $3 a raise? I dunno) with ATo. You flopped quad aces (basically a miracle flop for you) and...you bet this flop? Why?!?!?! You have the unoutdrawable nuts, and you have it with only one of your hole cards. Who do you think is going to call you in this situation? An overzealous PP? Well, if anyone has a pocket pair, they're going to do the betting FOR you, so that was kind of dumb. You probably got called by some kings (not pockets, lone kings), who then didn't have a full house come the turn and the river. I'm sorry to be so harsh, but this hand was VERY poorly played. If you were going to bet out, do it on the turn, when you might have someone attached to their full house.
Second hand, you raise and get a whole lotta callers. This time too, you flop the unoutdrawable nuts. But this time, it's a lot easier for people to be afraid of you because there's only two aces out there rather than three; the chances in their mind of you having trips is enormous. Then, you check after raising from the small blind (this in itself should scream STRONG HAND, even discounting the check). They're afraid of you having the ONE ace, much less two, and you KNOW nobody out there has an ace, so all you're really doing is telling people that you have at least one of those aces by checking. You say you check to represent KK? KK bets here to see where he stands and hopes to get the pot uncontested.
I can't understand you checking this second flop and betting the flop in the first hand; that makes no sense at all. The second hand, if you bet, you may have second pair call you thinking that you're merely continuation betting and that he wants to scare you into thinking he has the ace (which you know is impossible). Heck, he doesn't really even need second pair to try to scare you here. By checking, you announce to this world, I HIT THIS FLOP HARD, and I want you to bet for me. The first hand, your bet tells people I HIT THIS FLOP HARD, and I want you to call 'cause you're dumb. Both times, you don't want the other people knowing that you hit this flop hard, 'cause you have the unoutdrawable nuts.
If you reverse the plays on the hands and do what you did for hand 2 when you're in hand 1 and vice versa, then you really can't do anything more. People just didn't have hands or motives to pay you off. But you didn't play here to maximize value.
I assume you posted this to have your hand critiqued as well as to get a "Congrats on your Quad Aces...twice". Well, congrats  . Try to make a little money off of them next time. 
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evman150
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Victoria BC
Posts: 269
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He doesn't have the uncounterfeitable stone cold immortal hand on the flop in either case FYI.
You're forgetting about my favourite hand, the "Triple R".
"Runner-Runner Royal".
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baddy
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 18
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Congrats on the good run of cards. For the most part I agree with ensign_lee comments, but atleast you now know how to possibly get more money out of flops like that the next time. Anyways even if you didn't make much you still made something, so good job.
BTW, I was playing local $3/$6 last game and watched quad aces hit 2 times within about 10 minutes at my table, though to two different people. Similar to the way you hit yours, one was 3 on the board and the other was pocket aces with 2 on the board.
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
Posts: 2,237
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Originally Posted by evman150
He doesn't have the uncounterfeitable stone cold immortal hand on the flop in either case FYI.
You're forgetting about my favourite hand, the "Triple R".
"Runner-Runner Royal".
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splitting hairs, my friend, splitting hairs. :P
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edudlive
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 100NL 6max
Posts: 623
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I hit quad aces today actually 
In my first home game, my friend hit quad aces on the 3rd hand of the game 
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