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Fnord
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04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
Post subject: [] Folded a set
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$5/$10
I have over $2k luckbox loose/passive covers. Table is full of GAMB00L.
A bunch of limpers and I make it $40 from the SB with   Smallest pre-flop raise I've made all night.
I think it was like 6 to the flop:
$240 in the pot. :As:  
Checked through and I get a bunch of strange looks.
Turn: 
I bet $100, gamb00l calls, luckbox makes it $400, I call, gamb00l folds.
$1140 in the pot.
River: :Qd:
I check, luckbox bets $800, I throw up and call.
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kfaess
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I might be being ignorant here but why are we unhappy about this? Is is because he is passive and betting into us? I'd rather have more reads in this spot, like he's not doing this with TPTK or two pair. Why wouldn't he play AQ the same way?
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Fnord
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He wouldn't check the flop and raise the turn with AQ.
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LawDude
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Originally Posted by Fnord
He wouldn't check the flop and raise the turn with AQ.
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Yeah, I agree. You're looking at deuce-5 (not likely, but possible given the family pot pre-flop) or a set on the flop or turn, and as for the sets, Fnord beats 2 of them and loses to 1 of them.
There's also a slight possibility of a bluff (hoping Fnord checked the flop and was trying to steal the pot with air), but not after Villain bets the river.
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Woutman984
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Originally Posted by LawDude
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Originally Posted by Fnord
He wouldn't check the flop and raise the turn with AQ.
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Yeah, I agree. You're looking at deuce-5 (not likely, but possible given the family pot pre-flop) or a set on the flop or turn, and as for the sets, Fnord beats 2 of them and loses to 1 of them.
There's also a slight possibility of a bluff (hoping Fnord checked the flop and was trying to steal the pot with air), but not after Villain bets the river. |
Even passive guys raise preflop with aces, especially when everyone calls anyway. A set of aces is probably not in his range. Fish love to slowplay two pair, i wouldn't be surprised if he turned over A3 or A4 with a satisfied smile on his face, expecting it to be good.
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kfaess
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Originally Posted by LawDude
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Originally Posted by Fnord
He wouldn't check the flop and raise the turn with AQ.
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Yeah, I agree. You're looking at deuce-5 (not likely, but possible given the family pot pre-flop) or a set on the flop or turn, and as for the sets, Fnord beats 2 of them and loses to 1 of them.
There's also a slight possibility of a bluff (hoping Fnord checked the flop and was trying to steal the pot with air), but not after Villain bets the river. |
So we want to fold because he could have 52 or AA? Seems pretty unlikely imo. We beat lower sets, 2-pair, bluffs, which I think is much more likely.
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oskar
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I think this hand needs explaining. You're not isolating, so wth are you doing?
Then why do you bet under half the pot on the turn with 2 flush draws and a somewhat connected board multi-way, and flat the raise?
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JKDS
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why are we afraid of 52 but not 65?
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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LawDude
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Originally Posted by JKDS
why are we afraid of 52 but not 65?
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We are. I missed it.
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bjsaust
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Much more likely to have 56 I'd say. I mean, I call because we have a set, but I'm not very happy at all. Loose passive isnt semi/bluffing with anything, so we're really hoping he has 33/44 or A3/A4 and chose to slowplay flop.
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sk8r_daniel
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I can think of one reason to bet $100 into $240.
Like... if you knew that the opponent was going to reraise with A3/ A4, 33 and 44 to a small bet but would only call to a big bet. He will likely only call a reraise on the turn with a straight, or a set. You keep the pot small by calling. Calling also minimizes risk in a situation where the pot is getting large and about to get bigger.
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mxiu
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wow sick, but i think i would convince myself that he has missed hearts or something =/
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derekvsmith
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lol i was thinkin the exact same thing and its more likely to get a call with 65 then 52 maybe even suited or something but i would say that is most like ly the hand he has cuz i jus dont see n e of them having pok A
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GahGah604
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04-07-2009, 04:38 AM
Post subject: Re: [] Folded a set
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Originally Posted by Fnord
$5/$10
I have over $2k luckbox loose/passive covers. Table is full of GAMB00L.
A bunch of limpers and I make it $40 from the SB with Smallest pre-flop raise I've made all night.
I think it was like 6 to the flop:
$240 in the pot. :As:
Checked through and I get a bunch of strange looks.
Turn:
I bet $100, gamb00l calls, luckbox makes it $400, I call, gamb00l folds.
$1140 in the pot.
River: :Qd:
I check, luckbox bets $800, I throw up and call. |
tell me you took it down! or did he have 5/6 like I suspect?
did you clean the vomit off the table? hahaha
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Fnord
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He had 56 offsuit LDO.
As for my turn bet size, with a lot of short stacks with a big stack mixed in and no flop action I figured I'd throw out a teaser and see what happens so I could plan out the rest of the hand. Against a very loose player who checked behind the flop I think 52 and 65 are a LOT of his range here. He also is retarded and puts me on a set of Aces! So I went with a pot control line. I was soooooo close to the hero laydown.
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