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| rmariani |
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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T  , T . UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) J  , 6, 3 (3 players)UTG bets, Hero raises, CO calls, UTG calls. Turn: (6.75 BB) K (3 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, CO folds, UTG calls. River: (8.75 BB) 2 (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls. Final Pot: 10.75 BB Results in white below: UTG has Jd Ts (one pair, jacks). Hero has Th Tc (one pair, tens). Outcome: UTG wins 10.75 BB. I'm sure I play this bad, but what should I have done? fold on the flop??????? I think I will start to play TT as any low par. If it trips it's good, otherwise fold! |
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| Jay67s |
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| You had 3 others in this hand, which is the main thing to take note of. With more players in the hand usually someone with have TP. I don't dislike the flop raise. Once the K hit, I probably would have folded. | ||
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| Strung |
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Hmmm. Flop raise was fine however I think I would of check/folded the turn. You no longer have second best holding. Like Jay said, you are against 3 others in this meaning you're unlikely to have best hand with 3rd top pair. It's a raised pot too but not sure if you should go to calldown mode here with only 3rd pair. |
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| Rondavu |
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I see this often with someone who has a pair of 8,9,10, or J's. They refuse to lay down, and even take the lead with a higher card on the board. Meanwhile someone's smooth calling them down with top pair bad kicker just to look it up, or they get check raised on the river with a hand that's been dead throughout the hand. You gotta let go of these hands when they get beat by a flop. Let them go immediately, unless the pot is worth hanging around to try for late street trips. Your only bleeding away portions of your stack. Let these hands go unless there are extraordinary conditions prevailing, such as you know there are loose or recklessly aggressive people in the hand with you. You were hoping for rags, and it didn't happen so fold and move on. |
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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| rmariani |
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| so should I raise this preflop at a loose table? | ||
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| hagakure |
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| Personally I wouldnt...but according to the hand group articles on the front page you should. | ||
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| ChezJ |
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pre flop raise is fine. but what's up with the raise on the flop? you only do that if you suspect the first bettor is betting a straight or flush draw and you want to protect your hand. in this case, there are no apparent draws, so the only things you can put the bettor on are JX, two pair, or a set, all of which beat you. you are drawing to two outs with nowhere near the 22:1 you need to continue. it's an easy fold. if you do decide to continue, raising is the right move but only so that you can take a free card on the turn and check-fold the river. which you did not do. bottom line, horribly misplayed hand. ChezJ |
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| Rondavu |
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| In late position I would raise it. Your probably favored going into the hand most times with a bunch of limpers. Also, if you can chase out someone with two complete rags in hand, then you lower your risk of them hitting a two rag pair on your ideal rag flop. You'll get a lot of people with stuff like K9, Q3 offsuit in the hand with you at a loose table, and you'll dominate them on a rag flop so raise. You raise because your favored. Just drop it fast when sufficient paint hits the board. | ||
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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| Room |
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| Raising the flop, then checking this turn is bad. You lose the least, but youre showing weakness and probably going to lose the hand, win the least when you hit. If you have a decent read on an opponent (maybe not this guy - looks like hes calling down with his flopped TP no matter what), you might call the flop raise the turn. You lose 1 extra SB as taking your line when you lose plus you get the added value of winning the hand through a turn raise. If he checks the turn, you can check behind and fold the river (saving a 1SB when using the free card play). | ||
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| ArcticKnight |
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