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Old 09-29-2004, 05:17 PM     Post subject: was my skirt too tight? #1 (permalink)  
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my thoughts: based on the preflop and post flop (before i folded) action, i figured at least one of the other 4 players had pockets bigger than my jacks (AA and KK - yikes!), and QQ or AQ suited seemed a good possibility as well.

so, i gave myself two outs, and if someone had QQ (very conceivable based on the preflop betting), i had no outs.

did i wimp out or make a good fold?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: fishstick is MP1 with J, J.
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, fishstick 3-bets, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB caps, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, fishstick calls.

Flop: (21 SB) 7, Q, 9 (5 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, fishstick folds, SB 3-bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (15 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (18 BB) J (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 20 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Ad Ac (one pair, aces).
UTG has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins 20 BB.
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Old 09-29-2004, 05:36 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Good fold.
 
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Old 09-29-2004, 05:41 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Your fold was perfectly ok here.. Even without looking at the "final outcome", I would have folded it too.

The only reason your second guessing your play here is because a MIRACLE card came on the river. Don't call that much action for a 2-3 outter.

Think about it like this.. What if that river card was a blank instead. Would you be glad you laid it down? Yes, you'd be saying ot yourself.. WHEW, dodged a big one that time.


Calling bets with a pocket pair to 1 over card was pretty big leak of mine.
Often I'd call just to be shown the over pair.
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Old 09-29-2004, 05:48 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Very nice play.
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Old 09-29-2004, 05:54 PM #5 (permalink)  
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thanks all - just wanted to confirm.

it's definitely a fine line (in limit) between over playing your big pairs, versus letting them go to easily.

it's a journey...
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:07 PM #6 (permalink)  
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If you had called all the way down, you would be "that fish, who doesnt know where the fold button is" that we all make fun of.
Is that guy still part of the forum??
 
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Old 09-30-2004, 02:31 PM #7 (permalink)  
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how ironic, fishstick... calling down and being called a fish..

hrmm..

I'd better shutup, my week of no banning requests is almsot up
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:26 PM     Post subject: Outs vs QQ #8 (permalink)  
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would have been a T and a K (straighting you and leaving a hole for the guy with the chicas)

But anyone with sense would've folded in a second, as you did. So leave the skirt just how it is.

PP bigger than your jacks aren't the only problem. You've gotta suspect all kinds of PPs, so there's a decent chance of any of those cards giving a set.
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Old 09-30-2004, 07:04 PM #9 (permalink)  
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how ironic, fishstick... calling down and being called a fish..

hrmm..

I'd better shutup, my week of no banning requests is almsot up
i've already got one pre-filled out to submit next week.
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