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dsaxton

09-30-2005, 08:06 PM Post subject: Alternative betting lines for this hand?

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Should I check-raise the turn, or check-call the turn then check-raise the river? I think my betting line here was pretty weak.

PokerStars Game #2695839782: Hold'em Limit ($3/$6) - 2005/09/30 - 16:00:14 (ET)
Table 'Mensa II' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: dsaxton ($96 in chips)
Seat 3: pats11 ($83 in chips)
Seat 4: bosoxbruins ($105 in chips)
Seat 5: frankncow007 ($26 in chips)
Seat 6: 3rivers ($31.50 in chips)
bosoxbruins: posts small blind $1
frankncow007: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Qd Js]
3rivers: folds
dsaxton: raises $3 to $6
pats11: calls $6
bosoxbruins: folds
frankncow007: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th Kh 4s]
dsaxton: bets $3
pats11: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Th Kh 4s] [7h]
dsaxton: checks
ms04 joins the table at seat #2
pats11: bets $6
dsaxton: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Th Kh 4s 7h] [9d]
dsaxton: bets $6
pats11: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dsaxton: shows [Qd Js] (a straight, Nine to King)
pats11: mucks hand
dsaxton collected $44 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $46 | Rake $2
Board [Th Kh 4s 7h 9d]
Seat 1: dsaxton showed [Qd Js] and won ($44) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 3: pats11 (button) mucked [Ks Jd]
Seat 4: bosoxbruins (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: frankncow007 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: 3rivers folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Fnord

09-30-2005, 08:14 PM

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I usually just bet the turn and cry if he raises.

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A'aag

09-30-2005, 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

I usually just bet the turn and cry if he raises.

Me too.

The way you played the turn, you could go for a river check/raise. It's been my experience that most people don't notice when a straight draw completes, and even if he does, it has to be hard for him to put you on that. If he does put you on a draw he will expect you to bet out when you hit (because you'd be afraid he'd check behind), and he will bet all kinds of hands when you check. Depends on how aware and how aggro he is I guess.

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