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Old 10-06-2005, 12:42 AM     Post subject: Your play? #1 (permalink)  
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What do you do here? I'll post hand results later.

PokerStars Game #2735189630: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2005/10/05 - 20:37:38 (ET)
Table 'Okavango' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: EyeMstilGood ($442.80 in chips)
Seat 2: sgunn911 ($579 in chips)
Seat 3: laramyy ($199.40 in chips)
Seat 5: jjall_out ($574.80 in chips)
Seat 6: Moneysuckle ($551.30 in chips)
Seat 7: fumbo420 ($962.80 in chips)
Seat 8: ABNUZ ($265.15 in chips)
Seat 9: dsaxton ($725.80 in chips)
ABNUZ: posts small blind $3
dsaxton: posts big blind $6
check_kills: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Kc Ks]
EyeMstilGood: folds
sgunn911: folds
laramyy: folds
jjall_out: raises $36 to $42
Moneysuckle: folds
fumbo420: calls $42
ABNUZ: folds
dsaxton: raises $84 to $126
jjall_out: calls $84
fumbo420: raises $836.80 to $962.80 and is all-in
dsaxton: ???
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I've always said I don't fold KK preflop and I haven't yet. But I also don't play with that deep of money so its hard to say what to do here. I'd like to hear peoples opinions and see the results.
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:29 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Any reads?

Absent the "he'd only do this with AA" read, I call. I've seen people play like these enough (even at fairly high stakes) with non-AA hands to think he's as likely as not to make this move with a few other hands. There's obviously an argument to be made that he make this play with AA purely because you'd expect a smaller reraise to get value, but with the action he may be confident in getting called.

That said, I still think that knowing nothing else, I'm calling here. Aggression and overaggression just gets too common in higher stakes for me to know I'm behind.
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Old 10-06-2005, 04:18 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I would call, if he has AA he played it unusually and I always pay off unusually played AA's. I mean theres no way he knows that when he calls youll raise him further on, so im betting he has some small pocket pair.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:45 AM #5 (permalink)  
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jjall_out opened in late position with no limpers for $42 indicating he probably had a big hand, and so my big reraise should signal a monster (either K-K or A-A) to the player on the button. Since I had two kings in my hand, the range of hands I thought were most likely for him to be holding were A-A, Q-Q or J-J. If he had Q-Q, J-J or worse, I would expect him to show some caution, since from his perspective my play looks very much like either A-A or K-K. Since he didn't show any caution whatsoever, I had to give him credit for aces, and figured he must've been trying to trap jjall_out:



fumbo420: raises $836.80 to $962.80 and is all-in
dsaxton: folds
jjall_out: calls $448.80 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2h 7h 9d]
*** TURN *** [2h 7h 9d] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [2h 7h 9d 4s] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jjall_out: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
fumbo420: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)
fumbo420 collected $1275.60 from pot
jjall_out leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1278.60 | Rake $3
Board [2h 7h 9d 4s Js]
Seat 1: EyeMstilGood folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sgunn911 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: laramyy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jjall_out showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: Moneysuckle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fumbo420 (button) showed [As Ad] and won ($1275.60) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: ABNUZ (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: dsaxton (big blind) folded before Flop
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Old 10-06-2005, 09:29 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:21 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Nice read and good job not making that stubborn call.
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Old 10-06-2005, 02:43 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Wow...nice read.
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:13 PM #9 (permalink)  
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very nice fold.
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