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Mike
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11-06-2007, 10:51 AM
Post subject: What now?
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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I'm in a big tournment, buyin $300, 2100 players. I am number 25 and the second biggest at my talble. My M is about 30 and there are 800 players left. ITM=200. I have had a pretty loose play and the others have respected my raises pretty much earlier (when my relaative stack difference was even bigger).
UTG I pick up QQ and raise to 3BB. The only bigger stack and one of the tighter player att the table reraises me from the button (there are 10 players at the table), What now?
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AHiltz
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What was his reraise?
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sauce123
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dont fold
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Mike
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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The raise is about 4 times what is in the pot (including my raise). I have previously also seen that he only have showed down good hands. He is probably the most solid player at the table.
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Rondavu
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Fold, and then steal his big blind 5 times in a row.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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Mike
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Seriously? He is on the other side of the table.
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Rondavu
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I was just kidding man. The truth is you should fold, and care less that you did. It's not even close. Your hand is being crushed by his 3-bet range. Sure, he may have gone bonkers and decided to reraise a UTG raiser with 22, but why do you care? If he knows he has earned the right to make you fold QQ in this spot, and makes you do so, then so be it. Trust me, what's more likely going on is that he's putting you on JJ+, and has AA.
The thing you have to remember, is that when he gets a tight image, he not only earns the right to make you fold in a spot like this, but he also gives away something. The question is do you know what that is and how to exploit it?
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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Mike
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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I think I see what you mean. He had KK. Too bad I was abit unfocused when playing this hand to be able to fold it.
Would you fold in a situation where he was a small stack here also?
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
Sure, he may have gone bonkers and decided to reraise a UTG raiser with 22, but why do you care?
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Online players are relatively bonkers... and if his rr range was as tight as AK, JJ+ (which seems wayyy too tight) shouldn't you be calling his reraise anyway.
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sauce123
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sigh
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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The Grouch
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Anybody who doesnt realize that this is a clear fold is nuts....
We are probably only slightly ahead of his range and couple that with how abusive we can against shorter stacks even if we give up 3 BB after this hand, and it clearly boils down to one of those weird situations in tournaments where the +ev play in a vacuum is actually severely -ev given future expectations
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