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Old 04-13-2009, 10:38 PM     Post subject: weird river spots in the same hand vs the cleaner #1 (permalink)  
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 This is against the cleaner11. I don;'t know what to tell you other than he plays a little unconventinal postflop and he's solid. The other guy in the hand is almost never beating me based on his flop and turn play. I just don't know what to do.

In hindsight i think i should bet bigger on the turn

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($1036)
SB ($1000)
BB ($1000)
Hero (UTG) ($1013)
MP ($1877.95)
CO ($4818)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7, 6
Hero bets $30, MP calls $30, CO calls $30, 3 folds

Flop: ($105) 7, 6, 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $80, MP calls $80, CO calls $80

Turn: ($345) 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $260, MP calls $260, CO calls $260

River: ($1125) K (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $840, other guy folds, Hero??????

here's a relevant hand earlier

PokerStars Game #27059069742: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2009/04/13 18:21:47 ET
Table 'Kippes IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: femo1977 ($1041 in chips)
Seat 2: oldjude ($1000 in chips)
Seat 3: m_reed05 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: redgrape ($1103 in chips)
Seat 5: TheCleaner11 ($1575.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Bri-c ($4998 in chips)
femo1977: posts small blind $5
oldjude: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [9h Qh]
m_reed05: folds
redgrape: raises $20 to $30
TheCleaner11: calls $30
Bri-c: calls $30
femo1977: folds
oldjude: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [2h Qc 3d]
oldjude: checks
redgrape: bets $60
TheCleaner11: calls $60
Bri-c: calls $60
oldjude: folds
*** TURN *** [2h Qc 3d] [Kd]
redgrape: checks
TheCleaner11: checks
Bri-c: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h Qc 3d Kd] [4s]
redgrape: checks
TheCleaner11: bets $90
Bri-c: calls $90
redgrape: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TheCleaner11: shows [Qs Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Bri-c: mucks hand
TheCleaner11 collected $482 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $485 | Rake $3
Board [2h Qc 3d Kd 4s]
Seat 1: femo1977 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: oldjude (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: m_reed05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: redgrape folded on the River
Seat 5: TheCleaner11 showed [Qs Kh] and won ($482) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 6: Bri-c (button) mucked [Qd Jd]
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Its really difficult to imagine that thecleaner is bluffing when checked to on this river with the guy left to act behind him...is the guy behind a fish/bad reg?


I mean the only way he is turning a pr +gutter into a bluff is if he knows that the guy left to act is competent enough to fold his marginal hand and is never slowplaying...

Id think that he has you beat here because it isnt a terrible spot for him to slowplay on the flop with the board being as dry as it is, and ofc the turn plays itself after that...

I also might bet a little bigger on the turn to setup a river jam... but as played i think it is a fold
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:10 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 other villain is bri-c, who plays pretty damn passive in my experience, not sure whaqt the cleaner thinks of him. But he's a reg it'd be surprising if he slowplayed all the way.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:32 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:56 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 This seems so odd but i dont see him trying to bluff us off something multiway given action especially. King also makes no sense as a bluff card.
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are AKs and AA too small to want to call because of that
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:21 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 i like this hand if u folded
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