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Old 12-21-2010, 01:21 AM     Post subject: Wat #1 (permalink)  
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UTG ($9193.40)
MP ($2843)
CO ($11639)
Button ($4597)
SB ($8544.90)
BB ($2500)

Preflop:
UTG bets $125, 3 folds, SB raises to $400, 1 fold, UTG calls $275

Flop: ($850) Q, A, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $750, UTG calls $750

Turn: ($2350) J (2 players)
SB bets $1500, UTG calls $1500

River: ($5350) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $6543.40 (All-In), SB calls $5894.90 (All-In)

Total pot: $17139.80 | Rake: $3

UTG as 5s5d
SB has AhAs

Sorry for posting this here, I was just hoping for an explanation that didn't result in "SB is retarded" Which is my only thought process.

Also: 5s5d is Airic1400
and: AhAs is soso8088
if that helps.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:55 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Yeah SB river play is terrible. He should def jam himself.
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:08 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I'd imagine its probably something like "damn there's still value on this turn card, but prob not two streets so I'll check river if he calls turn and re-eval. Damn flush on board, but I guess I still might not get called by worse so I'll pot control and get to showdown. Damn.. he shoves.. this doesn't make sense. Maybe he'd only shove Kc and he doesn't have many of those. Damn..he reps narrow.. I guess I gotta call now, he could be taking me off a chop"
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:17 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Yeah SB river play is terrible. He should def jam himself.
Why don't we think UTG has a good club?

I'd rather c/f here if I'm SB, I think his play is bad unless he has some read on his opponent.

Turn seems odd, I think check/calling is better.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:09 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:20 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Why don't we think UTG has a good club?

I'd rather c/f here if I'm SB, I think his play is bad unless he has some read on his opponent.

Turn seems odd, I think check/calling is better.
Yeah I agree with all this. Not too much to say about the hand without more info about the players. Just saying that c/c river is the worst possible play on that street and I don't think any competent player would choose that line.
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:58 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Yeah p4s is just saying "If SB is putting UTG on a hand with no club he should've shoved river."

Soso is a pretty terrible player, so this hand doesn't really surprise me.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:38 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 Betting the turn was the optimal play...
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Betting the turn was the optimal play...
Can you elaborate more? Is it because this is one of our better semi bluff hands on the turn and we can expect our opponent to bluff in his position fairly optimally?
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