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sauce123
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01-18-2010, 10:19 PM
Post subject: Two streets or 3 ? And which streets ?
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Seat 3: WCG|Rider ( $2050.00 USD )
Seat 5: Altrum Altus ( $4363.00 USD )
Seat 6: Sauce123 ( $3693.50 USD )
Sauce123 posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
WCG|Rider posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Sauce123 [ Qh Kh ]
Altrum Altus raises [$60.00 USD]
Sauce123 raises [$210.00 USD]
WCG|Rider folds
Altrum Altus calls [$160.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, 4h, 3d ]
I'm 3betting maybe 10% ish, Altrum is opening 60% or so preflop to 3x, four betting a bit but not too much and folding to a lot of 3bets.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Ha this is really close. Has you been deep for a while? Cause i bet he could flat some shitty suited K's here which helps you out. I think 3 streets.
I think betting the flop is mandatory though. I wouldnt expect a lot of bluff if i checked the flop because almost every reg is gonna put you on a made hand.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I'd bet flop and pretty much any turn. I'd only bet river if I felt like I was repping a thin value range, i suppose that depends on what the turn and river are.
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pocketfours
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I would only check heart turns except Ah and any deuce or seven.
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Ravageur
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p4s, since we're a bit deep wouldn't we want to bet any heart turn? Are we afraid to get blown off it or are we checking for deception?
I think standard is just bet/bet and then check or bet depending on river, but how bad is bet flop, c/call turn (if checked through obv bet river) and c/call river. Seems like this line lets him float and also value town himself with stuff like KJ/K10s etc.
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Family Cruise IMO
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meeloche
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Fwiw my standard would be to bet flop and turn for sure and then reeval on river.
I think betting heart turns> checking as he's gonna expect us to barrel hearts anyway and since we're deep I think checking does more harm than good especially when he's never folding a pair on a heart turn.
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pocketfours
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ravageur
p4s, since we're a bit deep wouldn't we want to bet any heart turn? Are we afraid to get blown off it or are we checking for deception?
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I feel like he bets way more hands we beat if we check than he calls with if we bet and our hand is very powerful and well disguised. He's expecting us to barrel a heart draw, so he's going to have a hard time laying down a set when we c/c heart turn and c/r heart river. We also hate life if we get raised although that isn't very likely.
We probably won't get three streets against midpairs anyway, but should be able to get more value on the river if he checks back turn, especially since the flop is a very good flop to cbet.
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by meeloche
when he's never folding a pair on a heart turn.
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Why not?
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nutsinho
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well you cant bet-bet-c/f vs reynolds so id bet the flop and most turns and decide what way to put money in on the river
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ESS123
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let's see a turn/river
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Ravageur
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Yeah would be cool to see a followup if there is one.
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Family Cruise IMO
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sauce123
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i bet bet shoved, he called with 888
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