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pocketfours

01-10-2008, 09:53 AM Post subject: Theory: LAG style play

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As you know I've been playing pretty much ABC (but perhaps tricky) tightish poker and I really think I need to start to work on my LAG game.

I can play very LAG HU and I think I need to at least be capable of playing LAG in short handed games also. My stabs at 5kNL haven't been very successful and I think it's partly because I'm having a hard time against the LAGs. If I know how to play like one I might know better how to play against one.

I'm used to playing short handed with a solid image and it's of course very different to play with a bad one. I thought I would experiment and try to play some really LAG poker at lower stakes than where I usually play and see how it goes. I played a pretty long session at 400NL and my stats were 34/27/2.4 over 1700 hands.

I got my opponents to go completely ape from my 3-betting in position with a wide range. This is probably something the LAGs here are used to, but this never happens to me when I'm playing with a solid image:

Villain is unknown 22/14/2.5, and I have been 3-betting him constantly.

Seat 1: BUTTON ($400.00 in chips)
Seat 3: SB ($298.90 in chips)
Seat 4: BB ($394.00 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG ($559.00 in chips)
Seat 10: HERO [ JS,JH ] ($762.90 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($2), BB posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
UTG bets $14, HERO bets $46, BUTTON folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $32.

FLOP [board cards 10D,6H,6D ]
UTG checks, HERO bets $75, UTG bets $200, HERO bets $641.90 and is all-in, UTG calls $313 and is all-in.

TURN [board cards 10D,6H,6D,AC ]

RIVER [board cards 10D,6H,6D,AC,8S ]

SHOWDOWN
HERO shows [ JS,JH ]
UTG shows [ KS,QD ]
HERO wins $1,324.90

Another one: Villain is a good 1kNL regular LAG. Probably down at 400NL because there was very little action at higher stakes at the time. It felt like he was a bit tilted after I 4-bet shoved KTs on him and sucked out against his AK.

Seat 1: CUTOFF ($430.50 in chips)
Seat 3: BUTTON ($525.40 in chips)
Seat 4: SB ($515.50 in chips)
Seat 9: BB ($405.00 in chips)
Seat 10: HERO [ AS,8D ] ($932.50 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($2), BB posts blind ($4).

PRE-FLOP
HERO bets $14, CUTOFF calls $14, BUTTON folds, SB calls 12, BB calls 10.

FLOP [board cards 8C,4H,2C ] (POT $56)
SB checks, BB checks, HERO bets $45, SB folds, BB calls.

TURN [board cards 8C,4H,2C,QD ] (POT $146)
BB checks, HERO bets $873.50 and is all-in, BB calls $348.00 and is all-in.

RIVER [board cards 8C,4H,2C,QC,KH ]

SHOWDOWN
HERO shows [ AS,8D ]
BB shows [ 9S,2S ]

Anyone here playing with PFR > 25? Any advice before I take stabs at 1kNL with this style? Or should I not even try?

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01-10-2008, 11:42 AM

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You're adding a gear. That's awesome. You still need the whole transmission to beat 1K. You've simply been driving without 5th gear for a while now, which happens to be the most dangerous gear when you run into obstacles.

Instead, I would slowly introduce it into your game at 1K, as you feel comfortable, while still playing your usual game mostly. Pick your spots and lagg them when it feels most +EV. Eventually your A game will transform itself IMO.

Trust me when I tell you. If you try to change your game too fast, it will tilt you because your reads get fucked.

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01-10-2008, 11:47 PM

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i usually play at least 24/20

basically just think of ur tight range from each position and add as many opens as u can that are 0ev and then adjust as ur opponents go apeshit postflop

as in ATC against tight blinds- we are almost always folding to a 3bet but think they fold often enough to make the open break even.

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01-10-2008, 11:48 PM

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as in its a mistake to drastically change hand values for u and ur opponents postflop if u r playing lag as they will just vbet u to death and u will have TPNK more often etc etc

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01-11-2008, 12:25 AM

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I play 37/32 currently but that's because i play with a bunch of robots from the blinds (I have a 70% attempt to steal blinds percentage and for some odd reason don't get threebet light).

But its much easier to be aggressive when you're tight preflop.

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