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griffey24
Old 07-25-2008, 12:03 AM     Post subject: Showdown value into bluffs #1 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1
-This hand is against Alexos
-We haven't had many hands together on this day, so there was no immediate history, only stuff from the past
-Alexos probably perceives me as too bluffy at times, but generally with some equity like pushing draws in dumbass spots and stuff
-He also thinks I call too many flop cont bets and turn bets but probably thinks I fold the river a fair amount
-I can't imagine him betting AJ on this turn (c/c probably if anything)
-He probably thinks my range can potentially include hands like KQ and AQ and sometimes even AK but less likely


$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG BIMBO ($2388.00)
CO pasajlic ($1000.00)
BTN nemanja15 ($1388.00)
SB Alexos ($1160.00)
BB Hero ($1530.62)

Pre-flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is BB
3 folds, Alexos raises to $30, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($60, 2 players)
Alexos bets $45, Hero calls $45

Turn: ($150, 2 players)
Alexos bets $110, Hero calls $110

River: ($370, 2 players)
Alexos bets $200, Hero raises to $1345.62



Hand 2
-villain in this hand is mymaximus and is a solid regular
-he 3-bets a fair amount, especially in position. I realize this call preflop is probably pretty damn brutal, but lets ignore that for the time being! KJ = TT for the purpose of this hand
-he often checks through flops with hands like AK/AQ on ragish boards and then raises turns when villain leads into him with overs or if he turns draws
-if he raises draws/bluffs he always continues on later streets
-I'd expect him to bet the flop or turn with a flush draw a high percentage of the time
-I realize my line probably doesn't make that much sense for a flush, but neither does his, and I really have no idea what he has here.


$2/$5 pounds
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG farmer-g ($1173.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($536.00)
CO nemanja15 ($543.65)
BTN mymaximus ($544.10)
SB Jon040124 ($619.90)
BB Lang_56 ($579.15)

Pre-flop: ($7, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 1 fold, mymaximus raises to $55, 2 folds, Hero calls $40

Flop: ($117, 2 players)
Hero checks, mymaximus checks

Turn: ($117, 2 players)
Hero checks, mymaximus checks

River: ($117, 2 players)
Hero checks, mymaximus bets $99, Hero raises to $481
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:02 AM #2 (permalink)  
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first is pretty good if he respects u and doesnt think ur capable

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Old 07-25-2008, 04:51 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Hand 2 reminds me of that hand where gabe overshoves as a bluff versus an obvious AK tptk on the river in a threebet pot. gabe got called fwiw.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:58 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 What can villain have in hand 2 though that he's checking twice?? some weird diamond SCs?
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:35 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Alexos
What can villain have in hand 2 though that he's checking twice?? some weird diamond SCs?
Even that I think he for sure bets earlier, on flop or at least turn. I really really don't think he shows up with a flush here that often.
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