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Old 05-03-2006, 11:11 AM     Post subject: river CR bluff #1 (permalink)  
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villain is kind of weak and predictable, my image is aggressive but I havent been caught bluffing for a while. Thoughts about this line?


drainpipe is at seat 1 with 570.50
PingZen is at seat 2 with 1457.25
[Maria] is at seat 3 with 1551.50
transcom is at seat 4 with 347.00
tømmer is at seat 5 with 581.00

PingZen posts the large blind 10.00
drainpipe posts the small blind 5.00

drainpipe: --, --
PingZen: 3d, Ad
[Maria]: --, --
transcom: --, --
tømmer: --, --

Pre-flop:

[Maria]: Fold
transcom: Fold
tømmer: Raise 30.00
drainpipe: Fold
PingZen: Call 30.00

Flop (Board: 6h, 7d, Kd):

PingZen: Check
tømmer: Check

Turn (Board: 6h, 7d, Kd, 5h):

PingZen: Bet 50.00
tømmer: Call 50.00

River (Board: 6h, 7d, Kd, 5h, 7s):

PingZen: Check
tømmer: Bet 80.00
PingZen: Raise 200.00
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Old 05-03-2006, 04:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i like it, but i would have just put him allin
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Old 05-03-2006, 10:21 PM #3 (permalink)  
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What does villain have that he can call the turn here? F/D? a single 8/4 for OESD? A 6? TT-QQ?

I think he has to bet a king on that flop... so he either has crap or is slowplaying a straight/set (boated on river) or two pair. That's a horrible board for slow playing.

OK, I'm satisfied. nh sir!
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when you first checked, were you thinking he would bet and you would bluff, or were you just giving up until you saw his weak bet?
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i like it, but i would have just put him allin
risk-reward isnt good imo.

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when you first checked, were you thinking he would bet and you would bluff, or were you just giving up until you saw his weak bet?
I thought he might be fishy enough to call with AQ or sorts had I bet again but I had CR'ing in mind when I checked my hand to him. To be honest, I got this idea after reading this:
http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/c...iller0506.html
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:11 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I don't like it at all
I think you misplayed every street
 
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Old 05-04-2006, 08:29 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I don't like it at all
I think you misplayed every street
that is good, if you could also elaborate this a little bit more. Why is that? what would your line be?
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:39 PM #8 (permalink)  
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OK, I will posess po$$e$$ed...

You call PF with trivially dominated A3s. Raise this to see if he really wants to play, or fold it. You flop the friggen NFD, bet it! Then the turn comes, fills the straight draw, and you bet THAT?

River has been discussed, I don't think there's anything wrong if your read is g00t.
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I don't like it at all
I think you misplayed every street
that is good, if you could also elaborate this a little bit more. Why is that? what would your line be?
what I meant to say was, I thought you misplayed every street besides preflop

I see no reason why you shouldn't bet the flop, especially against a weak/predictable player, you should take the pot down with a bet here more often than not

on the turn, I would either bet more, or check
all kind of hands are going to call your turn bet, even A-high will call you because he thinks you're drawing

the river check-raise is awkward; first of all, what are you trying to represent? trip 7's?
second, I feel your CR isn't folding a big enough range of hands
if villain has a pair of kings, he's not folding
if villain has PP (88-QQ), he's probably not folding
 
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