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Old 04-03-2008, 11:21 PM     Post subject: Meh spot with a set #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is good 20/16 decent TAG reg. I just coolered him with AA>KK on another table (how do we interpret this?). He doesn't get out of line that much and is pretty straightforward imo. Considering he can have a lot of KcXc type hands and my read on him is this a std fold? I also bet pretty big. What do yall think? Thx.

Stack sizes dont show but assume 115BB deep

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with
UTG folds, Hero raises to $30, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: ($75, 2 players)
Hero bets $50, Button calls.

Turn: ($175, 2 players)
Hero bets $130, Button calls.

River: ($435, 2 players)
Hero bets $333, Button raises all-in $968, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $635 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $1101
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:55 PM #2 (permalink)  
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hmm... this is close I think. I mean, you know I never fold so I probably can't say much here.

I think a lot of clubs are definitely in his range: AcQc, QcJc, KcJc, KcQc

The problem I have with this is that our hand is in the top of our range, so if we're not calling here we're practically never calling.

If a spade came and he pushes you're still folding right? What if an A or 9 came and he pushes?

If he puts you on a made hand on the flop and knows you're capable of folding here, he can probably get you to fold on any spade/club/ and maybe even A or 9?

In a vacuum I think this fold is probably fine, but in terms of metagame I'm not sure how good triple-barrel folding is here.
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:17 AM #3 (permalink)  
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so you fold KKK?

edit : not a rhetorical question
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:49 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:12 AM #5 (permalink)  
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so you fold KKK?

edit : not a rhetorical question
more likely to call it cuz it takes away his KcXc hands...
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:32 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Yeah nice fold
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:37 PM #7 (permalink)  
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so you fold KKK?

edit : not a rhetorical question
more likely to call it cuz it takes away his KcXc hands...
Yah this is good logic, that makes sense.

What if he had KhKd?

I think this is a good fold. Not a fold that I can do, but I think you're likely behind.

But realistically though, my question above, you're gonna have to fold to a shove on all spades/clubs and possibly A or 9's right?
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:08 PM #8 (permalink)  
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This hand shows why floating boards with lots of bluff outs can be so profitable. I think it's a fold, but against a tricky regular, no way.
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This hand shows why floating boards with lots of bluff outs can be so profitable. I think it's a fold, but against a tricky regular, no way.
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