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Numbr2intheWorld
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05-01-2009, 04:06 PM
Post subject: Make a big fold against JEM87
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SB is Jem87, utg is sekt1. sekt is a looser TAGG who loves to triple barrel bluff, but the recent times ive played with him i slowplayed many times and he triple barreled away his stack at least 3 times. So i decided to raise thinking he'd probably get it in with all overpairs, AT (i think he has ATo in his utg raise range) and maybe bluff shove.
JEM87 plays 27/22 and he's extremely solid. i don't think he ever has T6s in his preflop range, maybe 96s (i doubt it though...) I mean if this is true i guess i'm answering my own question. he raised pretty fast, like within 5-10 seconds. Can i possibly put QJ in his range?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (CO) ($1060)
Button ($1000)
SB ($1227)
BB ($1000)
UTG ($1232)
MP ($1429)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 10 , 9
UTG bets $30, 1 fold, Hero calls $30, 1 fold, SB calls $25, 1 fold
Flop: ($100) 9 , 10 , 6 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $70, Hero raises to $190, SB raises to $560, 1 fold, [color=#666666][i]Hero
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TheLeakyFaucet
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god sucha ugly spot but I probably would fold, I just cant imagine him bluffing or doing this worse for value
I dont think he ever has T6s/96s in his range pre either
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griffey24
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I agree its a sick spot, I just can't imagine ever folding this in the moment while playing.
I agree that he's probably rarely doing this for value with worse, but at the same time I feel like I do stuff like this on occasion in spots where I know what I'm repping looks SOOO strong and it will be hard for the other two players to continue without the nuts. Because of that I doooo think QJ is certainly possible.
It really depends how likely villain is to want to make some kind of play here, or turn a weakish hand into a bluff.
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IowaSkinsFan
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He'd probably fold QJ knowing him.
I'd fold.
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pocketfours
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edit: meh
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TheLeakyFaucet
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
He'd probably fold QJ knowing him.
I'd fold.
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ye this as well
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sauce123
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your flop raise seems bad in this spot
id prob get it in as played but folding is def fine too
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Originally Posted by sauce123
your flop raise seems bad in this spot
id prob get it in as played but folding is def fine too
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even if my reads on sekt are 100% correct?
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TheLeakyFaucet
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yeah i think with sekt1 as the OR its def fine because he likes to spew a little more than most imo
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lockpull
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Please forgive my basic, and probably easy, question here (this is way, way above my stakes and opp levels).... but if UTG likes to 3 barrel bluff why do we not flat his cbet and let him value himself with worse hands?
lol, by we, I, of course, mean you guys since I am very, very far away from this level.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Originally Posted by lockpull
Please forgive my basic, and probably easy, question here (this is way, way above my stakes and opp levels).... but if UTG likes to 3 barrel bluff why do we not flat his cbet and let him value himself with worse hands?
lol, by we, I, of course, mean you guys since I am very, very far away from this level.
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Well i'm not defying logic here or anything, you're just either misunderstanding me or i didn't make it clear. Sekt loves to triple barrel, yes, but i had caught him last session doing it 3 seperate occassions (and 2 of those times i slowplayed, he also knows i can flat AA here). So up against me i just thought he wouldn't want to do it anymore.
thinking back on the OP i didn't make that clear, oops
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lockpull
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Originally Posted by Massimo
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Originally Posted by lockpull
Please forgive my basic, and probably easy, question here (this is way, way above my stakes and opp levels).... but if UTG likes to 3 barrel bluff why do we not flat his cbet and let him value himself with worse hands?
lol, by we, I, of course, mean you guys since I am very, very far away from this level.
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Well i'm not defying logic here or anything, you're just either misunderstanding me or i didn't make it clear. Sekt loves to triple barrel, yes, but i had caught him last session doing it 3 seperate occassions (and 2 of those times i slowplayed, he also knows i can flat AA here). So up against me i just thought he wouldn't want to do it anymore.
thinking back on the OP i didn't make that clear, oops |
Reading this and then re-reading OP I now see what you meant. Still not used to players that actually adjust their game. Thanks.
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