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IowaSkinsFan
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06-30-2010, 07:26 AM
Post subject: Live hand with crazy bluff spot possibility
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
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I'm in a standard WSOP tournament. Phil Ivey happens to be at my table. Ivey opens to 300, 50/100 blinds, stacks are 80bbish. I call with Ad7d in MP, young online looking fellow calls otb, euro online looking guy calls from BB.
Flop comes K42 no diamonds. Everyone checks to young who bets 450 into a 1250. BB folds and Ivey quickly reraises to 1400. BB doesn't look too excited. Action to me.
How bad is cold calling Ivey's raise and putting my stack in on the next two streets if he checks the turn (even if young calls the raise too, given I am very sure he doesn't have the nuts)?
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griffey24
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I kinda like it, given the price you're getting. You're getting better than 2:1 based on the money in the pot.
How likely is it that you think Ivey has AA/AK and can away from these hands based on how this flop played out on later streets?
I def agree with you though that you'll take this down a ton on either the turn or river if you get checked to.
What's your plan on an ace turn or river if checked to/facing a bet?
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
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IowaSkinsFan
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If either player were to bet I think I have to shut down. If Ivey has AK or AA I think there is a good chance he gets away from it.
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pocketfours
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Don't imo. Why didn't you bet your set on the flop?
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sauce123
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i like it
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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sauce123
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i mean do some donk-like stuff too and call quickly or w/e, you dont want him to think u have a king
tho at the same time, id be nervous ivey just soulreads me live because i twitch my left knuckle or something
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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gabe
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i dont think it can be good good enough to overcome the ivey factor
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Ravageur
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meh i would do it since it's win win : own ivey or get owned by ivey, either is a good story for later (yes i'm going to play like a huge fish in the ME tmr).
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Family Cruise IMO
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Fnord
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What gear is Ivey in?
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Outlaw
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How do all the players, most notably Ivey, view you?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Ivey hasn't been sitting for that long. He showed up late. Has been talking on the phone a lot. Semi loose aggro so far.
I basically used Ivey factor reasoning and folded, but thought this may be an odd spot where doing something absurd was good.
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