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Old 08-13-2008, 09:52 PM     Post subject: I'm good at poker #1 (permalink)  
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Wait, never mind. What I meant to say is, tell me how much I suck.

CO is a donk, Button is a good regular, BB is a weaker regular who makes weird calls PF and on the flop but seems to always have it when lots of monies go into the pot. Friar Skank is his screenname if anyone knows him.

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BB ($681.75)
UTG ($552)
UTG+1 ($1323.60)
MP1 ($120)
MP2 ($119.10)
MP3 ($572.25)
CO ($1054.10)
Button ($983.30)
Hero ($955.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3.
5 folds, CO raises to $12, Button calls $12, Hero calls $9, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($48) 5, 3, 7 (4 players)
Hero bets $36, BB raises to $90, CO folds, Button folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $120
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:17 PM #2 (permalink)  
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wow, sick reads to fold this.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:54 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:15 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:33 AM #5 (permalink)  
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could at least see the turn!
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:35 AM #6 (permalink)  
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on the bright side.... at least "not capable of folding" isn't a leak!

Seems people like seeing a turn. I'm definitely 3-betting this.. maybe that's a leak in itself?

Are we c/bombing a non-spade turn?
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Old 08-14-2008, 07:07 PM #7 (permalink)  
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almost getting direct pot odds to draw to your boat... not quite though
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Old 08-14-2008, 07:37 PM #8 (permalink)  
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not the worst fold i've ever seen but i'ld almost always call
 
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:20 AM #9 (permalink)  
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If we 3bet we have to pretty much push any turn. Unless we 3bet small... I like the call and check/bomb.
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Old 08-15-2008, 01:20 AM #10 (permalink)  
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If we 3bet we have to pretty much push any turn. Unless we 3bet small... I like the call and check/bomb.
Are you check-bombing because you want to bluff him off 77, or are you just that excited about me getting my stack in on the turn drawing to 10 outs?
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:13 AM #11 (permalink)  
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How small is his range here?

He could have something like two black 6s.
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:25 AM #12 (permalink)  
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He could have something like two black 6s.
I don't think so.

I personally don't make this fold. I think his range is weighted pretty heavily toward a flush (we definitely don't want to fold vs a range of high flushes), but on the chance he also makes this size raise with 77/55, then you've got some ROI canceling some of your implied odds, which could arguably make this a very astute laydown.
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:05 AM #13 (permalink)  
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agree with nutsinho

I'd fold though given we're out of position and therefore are gonna have an awkward time getting paid in the rare instance that we actually hit on the turn. He may release a small flush since he's a pretty huge nit. Also noting of course that your real odds of hitting aren't gonna arrive until the river, and theres a very good chance that you are gonna get bet off this on the turn.

Also fwiw I've played against this specific player a decent amt, and if u posted this hand and i had no clue who friar skank was, I'd probably be in the call camp too.
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:06 AM #14 (permalink)  
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almost getting direct pot odds to draw to your boat... not quite though
you really aren't
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:29 PM #15 (permalink)  
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almost getting direct pot odds to draw to your boat... not quite though
you really aren't
oops, you're right
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:56 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Yah after reading this some more, I'm a complete donk and didn't even notice this was full ring the first time around. I need to pay better attention to detail!

In game, I probably end up calling and folding a non board pairing turn. THough I think renton is probably right that since villain is a mega-nit, he probably won't pay us off anyhow when we hit, so fold is probably good.
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Old 08-15-2008, 04:11 PM #17 (permalink)  
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oh crap I didn't see that this was full ring either. I lean towards a fold now
 
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:43 PM #18 (permalink)  
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How does it make any difference that it's full ring? I know I kind of insulted villain in my OP but he's more than decent enough to realize that it was folded to the CO and make the appropriate adjustments. Against a similar nitty reg at 6-max I'd play it the same (I mean I'm not sure whether I played it right but if t's correct at FR then it's correct at 6max and vice versa).
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Old 08-15-2008, 11:40 PM #19 (permalink)  
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This isn't a good situation to be in at all - if you give him a realistic range of set/two pair/straight/flush you are in bad shape especially OOP. If he has a straight or flush then you can call hoping the board will pair - but will you get paid off OOP? he's a reg he probably puts you on a set if you lead out into 4 people then call when he shows huge strength by raising you.

If the board pairs and you still get action, you're likely behind to a higher FH.

I think you made the right play. Fold>call>raise
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:16 AM #20 (permalink)  
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I'd call like everyone says.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:37 AM #21 (permalink)  
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everyones saying fold now, LOSER!
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