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ilikeaces86
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05-10-2006, 10:46 PM
Post subject: iliketospew86
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($1391.65)
UTG+1 ($1945.45)
UTG+2 ($390)
MP1 ($1636.30)
MP2 ($941.50)
MP3 ($265)
Hero ($1107)
Button ($727.50)
SB ($440)
BB ($2190.08)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , Q . SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $40, 3 folds, UTG calls $30, UTG+2 calls $30.
Flop: ($135) Q , 2, 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $100, UTG raises to $200, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $100.
Turn: ($535) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $336.19, Hero is all in $ 886UTG calls $530.81.
River: ($1402) K (2 players)
Final Pot: $2100
Is this spewing?
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Renton
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Limp/call is very indicative of 22/88 at my stakes (200nl).
Ignoring the fact that I don't and have never played 5/10, I would have raised a little more preflop (prob to 50 at least). As for the turn bet I think it takes a read to fold here, but you are beat a lot. You can't just call though. You'd already have over half your stack in.
If he's laggy he could be doing this with a flush draw.
Did you feel that he had undertrips/overpair because of how fast he played it? Do sets c/r the flop commonly at party 5/10?
If he were 12/5 I would fold to the turn bet and if he were 20/10 I would push it.
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mcatdog
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Originally Posted by Renton
You can't just call though. You'd already have over half your stack in.
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Why not? A small but significant percentage of the time, his opponent has absolutely nothing here and we want him to fire again on the turn.
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ilikeaces86
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As far as stats go I am a 13 7 and he is a 23 6 I think.
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bigboy5540
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05-11-2006, 01:53 AM
Post subject: Re: iliketospew86
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($1391.65)
UTG+1 ($1945.45)
UTG+2 ($390)
MP1 ($1636.30)
MP2 ($941.50)
MP3 ($265)
Hero ($1107)
Button ($727.50)
SB ($440)
BB ($2190.08)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , Q . SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $40, 3 folds, UTG calls $30, UTG+2 calls $30.
Flop: ($135) Q , 2 , 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $100, UTG raises to $200, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $100.
Turn: ($535) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $336.19, Hero is all in $ 886UTG calls $530.81.
River: ($1402) K (2 players)
Final Pot: $2100
Is this spewing?
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yes sir.
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im good at poker
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Iwind
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Depends on what kinda player he is, minraising with a set on that flop isn't a very good play I think, but that doesn't mean he can't have one. I would also raise more preflop though, don't you usually raise more with 2 limpers?
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PO$$E$$ED
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short answer is no
long answer is yes
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There's nothing you're ahead of, unless Villain is a donk limp-calling KQ/QJ UTG, then check-minraises TPNK.
But if you read him for K Q/QJ, then vnh sir 
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What's wrong with min/raising a set vs. tight raiser? aces is a 13/7 - that's fuckin' rock like. The odds of him having 2 hearts are pretty small, plus if he has the likely over pair, we are playing for stacks.
Turn is a tight spot. It does look like a set turned boat here... but you are going to fold AQ on QQ board... bleah. you have 4 outs! Given that you aren't folding, I think your play is best. A heart on the river might kill action if villain has a weaker Q, or give him best hand if he has 2 hearts.
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lambchopdc
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
As far as stats go I am a 13 7
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God you are a set farming nit
edit: btw i was given this title by a 2+2er the other day so i guess i'm part of the club
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Bmxicle
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you are 13/7 ahahahahaha, you are one of the people i prey on at 5/10
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ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by Bmxicle
you are 13/7 ahahahahaha, you are one of the people i prey on at 5/10
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You give such good advice!
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ItDepends
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So, why are you calling on the flop if you aren't going to play the turn? Were you hoping the turn came QQ giving you quads? Fold the flop if you aren't going to play top trips when you make them.
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So, why are you calling on the flop if you aren't going to play the turn?
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to call and reevaluate after the opponent gets a chance to act against on the turn
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aces you suck at hitting runners
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So, why are you calling on the flop if you aren't going to play the turn?
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to call and reevaluate after the opponent gets a chance to act against on the turn |
None of the opponents I play minraise then check the turn. You have to expect a bet on the turn. It's spewing if you are only calling to bluff, because this is a bad spot to bluff.
So yes, with gabes interpretation this is definitaly spewing.
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Originally Posted by ItDepends
None of the opponents I play minraise then check the turn. You have to expect a bet on the turn. It's spewing if you are only calling to bluff, because this is a bad spot to bluff.
So yes, with gabes interpretation this is definitaly spewing.
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their turn action is more than just the difference between betting and checking
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ItDepends
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Originally Posted by ItDepends
None of the opponents I play minraise then check the turn. You have to expect a bet on the turn. It's spewing if you are only calling to bluff, because this is a bad spot to bluff.
So yes, with gabes interpretation this is definitaly spewing.
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their turn action is more than just the difference between betting and checking |
Open fold?
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There is a lot of information that you can pick up on the turn, especially if you are in position, as aces is in this hand. Things such as the size of the bet, the speed with which they bet etc. as far as the hand goes, I think the best play would have been to fold to the flop check minraise - this is almost always a sign of a huge hand, unless the villain has seen you folding to minraises in the past. another thing to note is that villain minraises with two players still in the hand, very unlikely to do that without TPTK beat and looks most like 22/88.
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gabe
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Originally Posted by gabe
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Originally Posted by ItDepends
None of the opponents I play minraise then check the turn. You have to expect a bet on the turn. It's spewing if you are only calling to bluff, because this is a bad spot to bluff.
So yes, with gabes interpretation this is definitaly spewing.
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their turn action is more than just the difference between betting and checking |
Open fold? |
bet size
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miniraisors position dictates this is spewing surely? Unless UTG sucks or is loose or just doesnt play position.
Could UTG also have the same hand by any chance?
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