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Old 04-14-2008, 05:02 PM     Post subject: I feel like this is kind of easy/standard #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is Sekt1, i have little history with him i just know he's a reg. (note also that the table is 4-handed)

He also bet the river relatively quickly (i'd say about 2 second wait time) especially considering i called the turn pretty fast.

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SB ($1156.10)
BB ($1083)
UTG ($1000)
Hero ($1876.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 7.
UTG raises to $30, Hero calls $30, 2 folds.

Flop: ($75) 4, 2, Q (2 players)
UTG bets $60, Hero calls $60.

Turn: ($195) K (2 players)
UTG bets $170, Hero calls $170.

River: ($535) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $450, Hero calls $450.

Final Pot: $1435
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Old 04-14-2008, 05:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 easy standard.... ummm... fold?

I'd much prefer this if he was button and you were in the blinds, check/calling him down.

Given that he's UTG, I'm not sure I like this that much.

I'd also like this a lot more if the river was the third heart (him trying to bluff the heart) than the turn bringing the heart.
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this is the easiest turn fold ever. think of your equity vs the equity of his range
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 Even if you had the seven of hearts, and even if you thought he was bluffing a gigantic amount (like you do now), the turn probably still is a fold.

Of course, when you call the turn, folding the river is retarded, but its almost not even worth mentioning.
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 On an awesome note, there's a new EV calculator called pokerrazor which you can download here:

http://www.pokerazor.com/software/download.xml

It is set up extremely well and has a great interface, you create extremely large ranges quickly so it's great for postflop.

Anyways, i did it for this hand giving Sekt1 a range of:

QQ+, 44, 22, AhQc, AhQs, AK, AhJh, AhJc, AhJd, AhTh, AhTc, AhTd, Ah9h, Ah9c, Ah9d, Ah8h, Ah8c, Ah8d, Ah7h, Ah7c, Ah7d, Ah6h, Ah6c, Ah6d, Ah5h, Ah5c, Ah5d, Ah4h, Ah4s, Ah3h, Ah3c, Ah3d, Ah2c, Ah2d, KQ, Jh9h, JT, Jh8h, Th9h, Th8h, Th7h, 9h8h, 9h7h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 5h4h

Cliffnotes: All reasonable pfr hands that made flushes, KQ, JT and all sets, AA, AK, all bare Ah.

According to this program my equity on the turn is 23.1%. Now i definitely could be adding worse weaker hands to his range and also take away some bare Ah. But yeah so it's pretty bad.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:56 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 Old HU hand from last July. I still remembered this one when I saw your hand. I was up 1.5 BI and tried to tilt villain by limping the button. This is horrible, but I learned my lesson:

Table BB's HE, 16 Jul 2007 4:48 AM ET

Seat 8: HERO [ 4S,4D ] ($2,420.00 in chips)
Seat 10: BB ($1,199.00 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
HERO posts blind ($5), BB posts blind ($10).

PRE-FLOP
HERO calls $5, BB bets $35, HERO calls $35.

FLOP [board cards 10H,2C,2H ]
BB bets $80, HERO calls $80.

TURN [board cards 10H,2C,2H,8D ]
BB bets $180, HERO calls $180.

RIVER [board cards 10H,2C,2H,8D,3D ]
BB bets $650, HERO calls $650.

SHOWDOWN
BB shows [ QD,QH ]
HERO mucks cards [ 4S,4D ]
BB wins $1,909
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:27 AM #8 (permalink)  
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is raising the turn not better than folding?
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this is the easiest turn fold ever. think of your equity vs the equity of his range
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