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Ravageur
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10-06-2009, 10:28 PM
Post subject: Hands that gave me trouble over past month: Hand #1
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I've stopped using a HUD so I don't have stats on Villain. He is however a good tag willing to mix it up. I played him heads up a week or so before this on a few tables and ran well for 6-7 buyins so I feel he's definitely targeting me. I felt lost on all streets and hate my play. Being OOP here just felt like death. His pre calling range is insanely wide this deep and my hand is face-up. What do you guys think about just flatting this pre this deep oop? The reason I felt I had to squeeze was the other caller who is an unknown and I obviously have lots of value vs him.
Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €6.00 BB (5 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG (€2051.55)
MP (€231.97)
Button (€228.79)
SB (€258.37)
Hero (BB) (€3252.74)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , K
UTG bets €21, 1 fold, Button calls €21, 1 fold, Hero raises to €120, UTG calls €120, 1 fold
Flop: (€264) 4 , J, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets €156, UTG raises to €444, Hero calls €444
Turn: (€1152) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets €642, Hero calls €642
River: (€2436) A (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG raises to €845.55 (All-In),
Total pot: €2436 | Rake: €3
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Alexos
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If you're calling the flop its because you believe he's f.o.s a decent amount of the time, after which you'll c/shove the turn since its only 850 more
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Ravageur
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yeah turn c/shove seems best, hand might not be as interesting as i thought.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I'd fold the flop maybe im insane.
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Leaving 850ish in a 2.4k pot on the river is pretty meh. I think turn has to be a c/shove or c/f.
He knows what you have, but does he think you'll fold it to him?
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Alexos
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
I'd fold the flop maybe im insane.
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That would be my standard too in this spot, but I was assuming theres a legit reason he felt villain is a monkey or something.
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Ravageur
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Originally Posted by Alexos
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
I'd fold the flop maybe im insane.
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That would be my standard too in this spot, but I was assuming theres a legit reason he felt villain is a monkey or something. |
He's not a monkey but hmm..how do I explain this. Let's just say I was about 90% sure he was raising the flop there. I guess it's a timing thing but I felt like we had been building up to this hand at the table and he was 'waiting' to make his move. But then I get cold feet and play it like scared money. I think if i'm gonna fold I should fold the flop like ISF said.
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Betsizing-tell on the flop FTW!
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I don't see any reason why anyone would bluff this flop unless they are expecting you to fold KK. I suppose you could raise small to get someone off AK/AQ but its likely since you called preflop you are beating those hands anyways.
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Originally Posted by Andypandy
Betsizing-tell on the flop FTW!
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Would be pretty epic if villain had 444.
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Ravageur
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hah i didn't notice that flop raise raise......hhhhhhhmmmmm
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I don't understand making it 120 pre. Why do people think they need to reraise more because of deep stacks? We're basically having to stack off with an overpair 300bb deep here simply because we created a spr where we can't even maneuver postflop (which i suppose would be fine if we were happily getting it in here).
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Ravageur
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hmm interesting. i think my rationale is to take it down more often pf which is an ok result and also punish them for set camping. I'd rather get more of their money in PF then postflop (which i obviously ended up failing at here)
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