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ilikeaces86
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07-17-2007, 07:44 AM
Post subject: Fun hand 5-10
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5-10 8 handed I have   in MP with 5k behind and raise to 35, button calls and sb who has 5k also calls.
Flop comes    it goes check check check
Turn  check check check
River  Sb leads for 110 I raise to 500 button folds sb makes is 1750 I ?????
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ilikeaces86
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BTW obv I am at least calling but do most everyone just shove here?
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Honestly, it depends on the way he took apart his Oreo before he ate it.
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mcatdog
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No clue what else he could have other than TT JJ and the royal unless it's some stupid bluff. How often do you think he checks a set on that flop with these stacks?
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ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
No clue what else he could have other than TT JJ and the royal unless it's some stupid bluff. How often do you think he checks a set on that flop with these stacks?
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The way he plays he prbly checks a set on that flop 95% of the time.
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ChrisTheFish
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Well, if he is bluffing he's obv folding to a min raise or a push. If he has a set hes calling both.. so erm.. push? 
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you're playing with a BBJ.
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gabe
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sb never has JJ or TT because of pre? or would they pop it ?
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ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by gabe
sb never has JJ or TT because of pre? or would they pop it ?
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That I wasn't sure of. If he can call JJ or 1010 pre then it makes it an easier push.
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IowaSkinsFan
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wow, I can't believe flat calling the second nuts here actually makes sense. Although I shove since we're beating 2/3rds of his range.
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When is somebody not gonna showdown the nuts in a HU 1000bb all in pot?
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This thread really needs results.
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
wow, I can't believe flat calling the second nuts here actually makes sense. Although I shove since we're beating 2/3rds of his range.
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Since its so unlikely he has JJ/TT/AA this may be a flat call so recant my statement.
Results please. I have a feeling he had a royal because it's hard to believe someone actually looked past the fact that "I have quads all in." And if he showed up with anything less its not much of a question. However, if he didn't show up with a royal the ability to look back at this hand like this is pretty incredible.
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I think TT and JJ make a lot more sense than a royal given the turn action.
Don't you think some people are reluctant to ReRaise JJ and TT in FR? And given the stacksizes, some people may be scared of playing a big pot with JJ or TT.
I think this is a pretty easy shove or value raise.
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What about Kc with either Jx 10x or Ax? Small blind may be willing to call the preflop action with any of those hands and would definetly value raise the river, because he can't put anyone on a set due to the flop and turn check arounds. He may well think he is best here with the K-high flush.
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Originally Posted by Lithium
He may well think he is best here with the K-high flush.
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You must be joking...
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Originally Posted by pocketfours
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Originally Posted by Lithium
He may well think he is best here with the K-high flush.
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You must be joking... |
It's not that illogical of a thought as he would have to believe we would fire the flop with AA/JJ/TT and he can never put us on 66
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Originally Posted by Massimo
I think TT and JJ make a lot more sense than a royal given the turn action.
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Yes, I agree.
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Originally Posted by Massimo
I think this is a pretty easy shove or value raise.
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Here I strongly disagree. You won't get value from TT or JJ with a raise and especially not with a shove. No way I would shove or reopen betting here with stacks this deep.
AA might give value, but that's a very unlikely holding.
Clearly CALL. Or make the fold of the century (either the best or the worst, depending on outcome, but in either case, you can tell your grandkids about it)
Results! I'm amazed if you only called...
Or was this hand fictional? 
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
It's not that illogical of a thought as he would have to believe we would fire the flop with AA/JJ/TT and he can never put us on 66
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You really think so? And what about A6s, J6s, T6s? Cmon, no way he re-re raises with only a flush on this paired board... There is just NO way. I will eat my words if I'm wrong, but I am not.
Besides, it's not at all inconcievable to control the pot with AA/JJ/TT on this ultra-scary flop, until the board pairs. And why not 66? It fits the play better than any other hand.
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Similar-ish hand I played couple of months ago. Feel free to call me a wimp.
UTG is solid regular grinder TAG and plays on 6 tables.
Seat 1: UTG ($1124.65 in chips)
Seat 3: CUTOFF ($496.45 in chips)
Seat 5: BUTTON ($332.95 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO [ AS,9S ] ($1089.65 in chips)
Seat 10: BB ($715.40 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
HERO posts blind ($3), BB posts blind ($6).
PRE-FLOP
UTG calls $6, CUTOFF calls $6, BUTTON calls $6, HERO calls $3, BB checks.
FLOP [board cards 2C,3S,4S ]
HERO checks, BB checks, UTG bets $25, CUTOFF calls $25, BUTTON calls $25, HERO calls $25, BB folds.
TURN [board cards 2C,3S,4S,5S ]
HERO checks, UTG checks, CUTOFF checks, BUTTON checks.
RIVER [board cards 2C,3S,4S,5S,QS ]
HERO checks, UTG bets $110, CUTOFF folds, BUTTON folds, HERO bets $330, UTG bets $850, HERO folds.
UTG didn't say what he had.
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In the original hand OP pushes and villian tanks and calls with JJ.
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ping for results
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ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by Triptanes
In the original hand OP pushes and villian tanks and calls with JJ.
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consider yourself punged pocketfours
And dayamn, nice 1 outer fish 
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You can't always believe people do what they are "supposed to do" PF.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed)
UTG ($463.95)
MP ($621.75)
CO ($304.20)
Button ($781.80)
SB ($335.40)
Hero ($600)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 , 4 .
UTG calls $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($24) 6, A, 6 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $14, CO raises to $28, SB folds, Hero calls $28, UTG calls $14.
Turn: ($108) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $18, Hero calls $18, UTG raises to $36, CO calls $18, Hero calls $18.
River: ($216) 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $530 (All-In), UTG calls $393.95 (All-In), CO calls $234.20 (All-In).
Final Pot: $1238.10
Results in white below:
Hero has 6c 4d (four of a kind, sixes).
UTG has Qs Qd (full house, queens full of sixes).
CO has Ah Kc (full house, sixes full of aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $1374.15.
the chances that either player didn't raise PF is extreeeeeemely low -- AK and QQ. Both decide to get tricky and let me in
kinda like how you expected a 3 bet pf...
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by Triptanes
In the original hand OP pushes and villian tanks and calls with JJ.
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Astonishing. Either villain is a donk OR your table image is 'a bit' reckless, which you didn't mention (or are we supposed to assume that this is always the case with you?) 
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sometimes ilikeaces86 drops stacks so fast it's mind blowing
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by Triptanes
In the original hand OP pushes and villian tanks and calls with JJ.
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told you it looked like JJ!
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ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
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Originally Posted by Triptanes
In the original hand OP pushes and villian tanks and calls with JJ.
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Astonishing. Either villain is a donk OR your table image is 'a bit' reckless, which you didn't mention (or are we supposed to assume that this is always the case with you?) |
PPL seem to think I am insane tho my stats are only like 23/18
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