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Ravageur
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12-16-2009, 04:51 AM
Post subject: Felt lost here, line check?
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Villain is 26/22 very high f to 3-bet of 80% though this is only over 300 hands or so.
He's a 5/10 euro reg and these games are generally pretty aggro so I feel like i'm more worried about AJ/A10 than KQ (he prob folds it PF and also would raise/call flop i suspect). Any input on my sizing? Does anyone check this turn and if so are we c/raising or c/calling.
Boss Media (IPN) No-Limit Hold'em, €10.00 BB (3 handed) - BossMedia Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) (€1000)
Button (€1126.50)
SB (€2106.50)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , A
Button bets €25, 1 fold, Hero raises to €90, Button calls €90
Flop: (€185) 10, J, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets €120, Button calls €120
Turn: (€425) A (2 players)
Hero bets €250, Button raises to €916.50 (All-In), Hero has 540 behind and calls pretty quickly?
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elipsesjeff
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I think you are boned as this just looks like classic value line. You didn't mention his button opening % but this flop just smacks the crap out of his opening range and calling preflop.
I dont mind the turn bet but at this point i feel its pretty obvious we have a strong ace so I put very little bluffs in our opponent's range (2-3 combos tops) and his value range kicks the crap out of us. When we're behind we have at most like 15% equity. I feel like this would be a hard call with JT/AT too...
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I would snap b/f this. There's no reason you can't have the nuts, and I'd rather bet than c/c, since we'll be very lost on the river and very likely to be facing a big bet. We also get value out of hands like QJ/QT/KT/KJ etc if we bet, and those hands very likely won't raise us off our hand.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Unless he tanked and then shoved id fold.
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meeloche
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I agree with all so far and I would fold. I wouldn't discount KQ as much as you as I feel like he's just as likely to defend A10 as he would KQ. He also doesn't always have to raise the flop as he is in position.
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Renton
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kq is an autodefend for this guy pre i think, and im pretty sure he's more likely to call the flop than raise.
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Ravageur
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Hmm good thoughts and in retrospect I agree with them. In the heat of the moment my thinking was 'He knows I'm barrelling this card with my entire range so he should be shoving here a ton so I have to just bet/call it when I do hit the nut barrel card if i'm going to be barrelling it with my air as well'. Not sure if that makes any sense, but yeah, I leveled myself pretty hard.
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ATOTHEC101
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I think your sizing is good and now I'd b/f.
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sauce123
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im b/f too, but hes really out of his mind for jamming anything here besides a pair + clubs he picked up
also, bet/folding here should worry us a lot, considering what it does to our range. i could go on ....
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IV Geoffrey
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well vs anyone thinking u shouldn't b/f here because they are in position and they shouldn't be jamming any set two p or straight etc and they can semi bluff because u are barrelling this turn a lot.
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