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05-03-2005, 08:59 PM Post subject: ensign_lee's tilty hand

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#Game No : 1993663226
***** Hand History for Game 1993663226 *****
$400 PL Hold'em - Tuesday, May 03, 16:48:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 37270 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: TR222 ( $362.82 )
Seat 2: buddybuds ( $1661.24 )
Seat 4: Chrome147 ( $340 )
Seat 5: DoingMyNails ( $475 )
Seat 6: Lakis ( $546.21 )
Seat 7: FLNKER ( $438 )
Seat 8: Dncfromtkop ( $327.7 )
Seat 9: chap420420 ( $445.7 )
Seat 10: Simply_Luck ( $529.64 )
Seat 3: ewlee ( $181.2 )
Dncfromtkop posts small blind [$2].
chap420420 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ewlee [ As 3s ]
Simply_Luck folds.
TR222 folds.
buddybuds raises [$8].
ewlee calls [$8].
Chrome147 folds.
DoingMyNails folds.
Lakis calls [$8].
FLNKER folds.
Dncfromtkop calls [$6].
chap420420 calls [$4].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Ah, 7d ]
Dncfromtkop checks.
chap420420 checks.
buddybuds bets [$20].
ewlee calls [$20].
Lakis calls [$20].
Dncfromtkop folds.
chap420420 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
buddybuds checks.
ewlee bets [$40].
Lakis calls [$40].
buddybuds: k s fold
buddybuds folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
ewlee is all-In [$113.2]
Lakis calls [$113.2].
ewlee shows [ As, 3s ] two pairs, aces and threes.
Lakis shows [ Ad, Tc ] two pairs, aces and tens.
Lakis wins $403.4 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and tens.
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OK. So I was a little on tilt when I played this hand. I'd lost $450 in the last 12 minutes on three different hands. One of my two pair's got counterfeited by the board turning into a straight. I hit top pair and I thought the other guy hit a set...but not before I'd pumped in $100 int into the pot...That's why I limped with my hand. When I hit two pair on the turn, I thought that I was golden. Apparently not.

Bad luck or bad play induced by tilt?

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dalecooper

05-03-2005, 09:16 PM

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A3 is the kind of hand that often costs you money in exactly these kinds of situations. The kicker is low enough to get you in trouble if you pair your ace, and low enough to STILL get you in trouble sometimes when you make two pair (which is also harder to get away from). That's because the lower pair can be counterfeited, or someone could easily pair their higher kicker to have you outranked - as happened here.

Basically I only like to play this hand from late position, if I can limp in, and only for a flush or straight. If neither comes along, I'm not really even trying to make money with it, whether there's an ace on the board or not. You have a guy betting ahead of you on the flop who surely has A3 beat - why call there? Just fold. The 3 on the turn was a happy occurrence, but AT has a lot of outs to beat you anyway: any ten, six, or seven puts him ahead of you.

Overall, my critique of the hand goes like this:

- don't play A3 suited from middle position, especially when someone has already raised the pot
- don't call the flop bet; raise it or fold, but usually you would just fold. In a five-way pot, it's a guarantee that someone else has an ace with a kicker higher than 3, in which case you're very behind on the hand
- bad luck on the river card, but effectively he hit a nine outer, not a three outer. That's why I don't like two pair hands where my second pair is that low.
- I also don't like where you push all in on the river. A scare card (the three flush) comes down, plus it's a high enough card that he could very easily have moved ahead of you with two pair (as turned out to be the case), plus it could have even made a straight for someone staying in 89 suited or unsuited... so your big bet on the end is probably only going to get called if he has you beat. Any hand that you beat (an ace with an unpaired kicker) probably folds there, unless the player's not that bright. So although it projects weakness, I'd prefer to check the river or bet the same amount you bet on the turn, and see what happens. He will certainly raise you, but maybe less. If he raises you all in you can consider your options and maybe get away from the hand. He may even check behind since the board is kind of dangerous.

ensign_lee

05-03-2005, 09:51 PM

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Yeah. That'll be what tilty play does for ya. I shouldn't have ever played this hand...
And the flop bet? Forgot to mention that guy loved to bluff, so I was pretty sure he had nothing. Figured that there was only one person behind me, and chances were that he didn't ahve the ace and the people in front of probably would have bet with ace better kicker. That's why I called.

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ensign_lee

05-04-2005, 01:52 AM

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How the HELL did this get moved here?

Sure...put my tilty play in the high stakes hold 'em forum so that I can look like an idiot...thanks rilla...

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05-04-2005, 02:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ensign_lee

How the HELL did this get moved here?

Sure...put my tilty play in the high stakes hold 'em forum so that I can look like an idiot...thanks rilla...

LOL! I was just wondering why this was in here...

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05-04-2005, 12:41 PM

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Only thing i really hate is the $40 bet when you hit your two pair. You know you are open to be counterfitted or someone catch their two pair on river. why not bet more then 40% of the pot? i probably would have pushed about $90 there or more..would have been happy to win this pot with my A3 right there

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05-04-2005, 01:49 PM

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well, if you are gonna play this hand, a turn all-in would have been much better than the river all-in.

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05-04-2005, 05:06 PM

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