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ATOTHEC101
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08-02-2010, 07:52 AM
Post subject: Do I really have to c/f this?
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Full House
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Villain is a nitty reg, does alot of bum huntery stuff and plays very straight forward.
I feel the relative position between us pre and the amount of people to the flop strengthens his flop calling range significantly to 1010-aa and 7s full , I'm faily sure he would flat aa and specifically kk pre in this spot a decent % of the time and would fold ak to the c bet. Obviously the turns a really meh card as he'll likely fold qq-1010, when he calls I'm somewhat worried. River now means we lose to jj as well, so I check...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($1082)
SB ($407.25)
Hero (BB) ($1000)
UTG ($1169)
MP ($2205.75)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , 2
Hero bets $30, UTG+1 calls $30, CO calls $30, 1 fold, BB calls $20
Flop: ($125) 2 , 7 , 2 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $80, UTG+1 calls $80, 2 folds
Turn: ($285) K (2 players)
Hero bets $190, UTG+1 calls $190
River: ($665) J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $450,
The only problem I see in folding here is that he would bet aa for value but I do have a blocker to that hand, and that's really the only value hand I beat.
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Fnord
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In the heat of the moment, I'd pay him off. That said, the fold makes a lot of sense.
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sauce123
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i def like bet bet bet, and i think he can have AK
now that u checked, fml i prob call ?
dont hate a fold though surprisingly
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nutsinho
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Originally Posted by sauce123
i def like bet bet bet, and i think he can have AK
now that u checked, fml i prob call ?
dont hate a fold though surprisingly
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griffey24
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Any stats on villain? 3bet stats? have you seen him flat huge utg+1 vs utg before?
I feel like in game I'm probably always value betting this river. Once we check, i can definitely see the merit to c/f. Though I'm pretty sure I'm not capable of it here.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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pocketfours
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At first this looked like a really easy bet but on second thought I kinda like a c/f, esp with reads given and because you think he folds AK on the flop. I def think c/c is your worst river line btw.
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ATOTHEC101
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Full House
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Originally Posted by griffey24
Any stats on villain? 3bet stats? have you seen him flat huge utg+1 vs utg before?
I feel like in game I'm probably always value betting this river. Once we check, i can definitely see the merit to c/f. Though I'm pretty sure I'm not capable of it here.
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villain plays 18/14, 3.05 af and has a 6 % 3 bet over a big sample. No I haven't seen him flat big before but he's competent enough to do so.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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This is really simple, his range is 77, JJ, KK, AK. There are 3 combos of 77, 3 of JJ, 3 of KK, 3 of AA, 9 of AK. 9 you lose, 12 you win. Now the complicated part is a) we're not positive he'll have AK and b) it's possible he never has JJ. It's basically a toss up, especially if you want to c/f because now we're not debating whether this is better than c/cing.
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griffey24
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I agree with P4's though, that c/c is def the worst possible line. So its prob best to either b/f or c/f.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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IowaSkinsFan
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