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Old 04-20-2006, 11:07 PM     Post subject: CR on turn with a boat #1 (permalink)  
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villain is bad. My image should be quite solid as I havent been caught bluffing or raising like crazy because the table had been kinda wild. The problem with my turn CR is that I could basically turn my cards up. Do you try to snap off a (semi) bluff here with CR or do you just lead out hoping him to have a 9 or some lower pp or for him to make a move? This play is too obvious for my liking.. Also, I really that third J on the board.

Hand #273028468 at table: Table TH 917
Started: Fri Apr 21 00:22:02 2006

transcom is at seat 1 with 570.80
maradona2 is at seat 2 with 526.77
Waddle is at seat 3 with 1481.26
bamse. is at seat 4 with 530.00
PingZen is at seat 5 with 824.50

transcom posts the large blind 8.00
PingZen posts the small blind 4.00

PingZen: Qd, Qc
transcom: --, --
maradona2: --, --
Waddle: --, --
bamse.: --, --

Pre-flop:

maradona2: Call 8.00
Waddle: Fold
bamse.: Fold
PingZen: Raise 40.00
transcom: Fold
maradona2: Call 40.00

Flop (Board: Jd, Js, 9d):

PingZen: Bet 56.00
maradona2: Call 56.00

Turn (Board: Jd, Js, 9d, Jh):

PingZen: Check
maradona2: Bet 80.00
PingZen: Raise 200.00
maradona2: Call 200.00
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:34 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i probably CR here, too. are hands that you beat going to give you more value from a river OOP bet than the value of your $200 turn bet? i don't see them making the same call on the river with worse hands in position on you. if he's bad, get him to make his mistake early enough in the hand before he gets scared away by more information on river. since you have such good table image, it's unlikely you get a river call for $200 if you just smooth call the turn $80 bet from OOP. also, the CR could induce another smaller PP to push over you which they probably wouldn't do on the river if you smooth call the turn and pot bet the river.

you can't lead out for a pot sized bet on the turn and get called by a very large range of worse hands, (which is what your CR accomplished). maybe 10-10, 88, A9d or AKd at most. 77 and below aren't too interested in calling there, but they make take that as weakness and make a move.
In answer to your question... it depends...
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