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griffey24

11-15-2007, 11:01 PM Post subject: couple spots, 2/5 pounds

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hand 1
-I've been playing somewhat laggy, not necessarily that loose but definitely 3-betting a lot and 2-3 barreling a LOT post flop. My image probably isn't the greatest here
-villain isn't anything special, more or less passive, 23/9/1.65
-we haven't had many hands together today, only one spot where we got it all in and i had AA so not sure how he views me
-is this river a call or are there enough two pairs/sets that he might call with to push?

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Blinds: $2/$5
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $578.65
UTG+1: $480.15
CO: $327.70
Button: $542.50
SB: $499.65
BB: $777

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with

Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop:

($45, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30, SB calls.

Turn:

($105, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River:

($105, 2 players)
SB bets $130, Hero calls or pushes?

Hand 2:
-Im' not sure if this hand is spew or not
-button has been tryin to steal blinds like madness, I think his attempted to steal blinds today is around 45%
-SB is very aggressive, and plays back at button steals a lot, I really thought I was ahead of both of their ranges here. I figured I would call and be in position on SB (I didn't expect Button's call,he had been folding to most 3-bets)
-On the flop I thought I was ahead, but once called I wasn't sure, so turn was mostly a bluff. good/bad?

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $292
CO: $540.55
Button: $479.71
SB: $664
Hero: $1341.80

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with

2 folds, Button raises to $20, SB raises to $65, Hero calls $60, Button calls.

Flop:

($195, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $118, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn:

($431, 2 players)
Hero bets $300

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Vi-Zer0Skill

11-16-2007, 04:50 PM

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Hand 1). I'd consider folding actually. It's an overbet and he's been generally passive. You have the third nuts, and if you call i'd imagine you're splitting or beat the majority of the time.

Hand 2). It doesn't make a lot of sense to coldcall with A-K preflop in the situation you were in, so i think a turn shove isn't good.

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zook

11-16-2007, 04:50 PM

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1. Fold pre, just call river. I can't imagine he'll call a push with two pair or a set on this board.

2. I give up after getting called on the flop. Looks like button has a better pp and if he can read hands at all he doesn't put you on an ace. I think he can convince himself to call with KK-JJ here.

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11-16-2007, 05:18 PM

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hand 2 I probably just c/f and expect to have him check behind a ton, and then we can vbet river i guess. Idk, this hand is really weird because there's definetely some merit to turning our hand into a bluff on the turn, and our hand has so little value on that turn anyways.

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Miffed22001

11-16-2007, 06:16 PM

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unless you think he'll call with a set in 1 then its just a call IMO as a river push is a value shove from at least a set IMO.

sauce123

11-16-2007, 06:31 PM

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hand 1- DONT SHOVE

hand 2- kind of a shitty spot. against average opponents id just muck here preflop which isnt bad at all. given you want to play the hand i think calling is best preflop.

flop play kinda sucks because if SB raises you at any point in the hand you cant continue. BTN's range is v wide here so you should be ahead enough on flop and A misses the vast majority of his range. so i dont mind ur turn bet even if it turns ur hand into a bluff i suppose.... though i would probably c/r or c/f depending on timing and stuff as he may incorrectly try to represent the ace if he isnt a good hand reader

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griffey24

11-16-2007, 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zook

1. Fold pre, just call river. I can't imagine he'll call a push with two pair or a set on this board.

Yah I guess this is more of an image thing, that I'd have to decide. Its not out of the question that I would bluff here, and so its posssible that I'd get a looser call. But yah call is prob best.

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hand 2- kind of a shitty spot. against average opponents id just muck here preflop which isnt bad at all. given you want to play the hand i think calling is best preflop.

flop play kinda sucks because if SB raises you at any point in the hand you cant continue. BTN's range is v wide here so you should be ahead enough on flop and A misses the vast majority of his range. so i dont mind ur turn bet even if it turns ur hand into a bluff i suppose.... though i would probably c/r or c/f depending on timing and stuff as he may incorrectly try to represent the ace if he isnt a good hand reader

Yah I thought about mucking pre, since usually I'd be at best a flip. In this spot, given how often BTN is stealing, and how often SB is re-stealing, I felt I could be good.

My turn lead was pretty much to get the most FE. I felt if I c/r he might feel committed after a bet to call with JJ-KK, though I guess most ppl should be checking through this turn with those hands anyhow.

Should I just be pushing TT pre here if I feel the situation warrants playing it?

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