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PO$$E$$ED
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01-30-2006, 07:40 AM
Post subject: Bodog 5/10 QQQ what's my action?
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Flush
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I'm holding QQ in SB. There's 2 limpers and a solid player raises to $45 from the button. I call, MP calls. 3-way pot, and I have everyone covered.
Flop comes A-Q-5 rainbow. It gets checked around. Turn comes a 6 of hearts, putting 2 hearts out there (the 5 is a heart). I lead for $120 into a $160 pot, MP folds, button raises it up to $360 without hesitation. Button has around $550 behind. What's my action? Also, state your reasons why. Button probably sees me as a solid LAG.
A. call
B. min re-raise to $600 ($240 more)
C. re-raise to more than $600 without putting him all-in (between $240 more and $550 more)
D. go all-in ($550 more)
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Pingviini
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Full House
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hero is obviously ready to play for stacks?
His line seems kind of weird, the possible holdings I could see here are AA and AQ (well perhaps a lower set as well) both having 4 different combinations here? Axh seems unlikely as I would expect him to bet the flop a lot of times, not totally unlikely though. 78h would probably make sense trying to scare weakish A's away.
Either way, I will go AI, he has a strong hand and we dont want to give the possibly existing flush draw to hit his 7 outer not to mention oesfd with 13 outs. Also sets up nice plays for future with strong draws.
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zenbitz
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4-of-a-Kind
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Well, you want that last $550, and you want it in the pot now. I think he has AQ or AA but it's not impossible that he has 2 hearts or even air.
If he has air... I doubt you get any more into the pot unless you call and river non-heart connects him (say he has 99 and river is 9)...well that's not exactly air, but 3rd pair on a AQXX board... pretty air like.
If think if you re-raise less than all-in and he's decent he is probably going to fold only worse hands. If you push, he might think you are bluffing and call with a worse hand. In anycase - you are probably golden unless he has AA ("that's poker").
Pings' point about maskarova is good too.
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Lukie
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I'd push. If you don't, what's your plan for getting all the money in, pushing the river? Being out of position, I see the turn 3-bet as the better choice. There's just too many cards that can either a) beat you, or b) kill your action on the river. Reraising a trivial amount never appealed to me, as it's clear to any smart opponent that all the money is going in to see a showdown, but a drawing hand isn't forced to pay all the money since on 5th street he already knows his fate.
With villain's raise, pot size is up to $640. You have to put in $700 more if you push, putting the pot size up to $1340. With $550 behind, villain is getting nearly 2.5 : 1 to call here. I think villain calls here with a pretty wide range, making your decision pretty easy.
Another thing you may want to consider is what villain is thinking about you. He raises with 2 limpers in front. Solid LAG calls from the SB which will probably become a multiway pot. Range for you is wide. You check the flop (you are the most likely to check a huge hand here, but that's a different story), other 2 check. Lots of weakness going around. You lead out, probably taking a stab at the pot, and he fires a large bet at you. Either he has something big, perhaps a big draw (if it's even possible to have a big draw when a lot of money goes in on the turn), or he doesn't have anything and you aren't getting anymore money from him. His check-behind on the flop could mean many things, from simply slowplaying a huge hand, to having something but wanting to moderate the pot size on a pretty drawless board, to genuinely having a weak hand that he doesn't want to c-bet against 2 opponents here.
In any case, I think a push is the best play here hands down...
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PO$$E$$ED
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01-31-2006, 12:03 PM
Post subject: Re: [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Bo-dog.html]
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Flush
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Originally Posted by PO$$E$$ED
I'm holding QQ in SB. There's 2 limpers and a solid player raises to $45 from the button. I call, MP calls. 3-way pot, and I have everyone covered.
Flop comes A-Q-5 rainbow. It gets checked around. Turn comes a 6 of hearts, putting 2 hearts out there (the 5 is a heart). I lead for $120 into a $160 pot, MP folds, button raises it up to $360 without hesitation. Button has around $550 behind. What's my action? Also, state your reasons why. Button probably sees me as a solid LAG.
A. call
B. min re-raise to $600 ($240 more)
C. re-raise to more than $600 without putting him all-in (between $240 more and $550 more)
D. go all-in ($550 more)
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I went with D. I really didn't see any other choice. He let his timer wind all the way down before folding. He later told me he folded AQ, thinking I had hit a set on the turn.
This is definitely not my standard line- normally I would re-raise preflop, lead flop, and push turn, but if I had done that I woul nt have had a hand worth posting.
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johnny_fish
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4-of-a-Kind
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Do you really think he folded AQ?
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
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I'd believe KK before I'd believe AQ
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