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Alexos
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07-15-2009, 10:11 PM
Post subject: Bluff catcher!
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Same villain as the other hand, J B o mbs. I clearly have no idea what to put him on here, which means im always tempted to call  Wouldn't he also 3bet most 5x hands preflop? This happened before the other hand.
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
4 players
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Stacks:
CO ($2241.00)
Hero (BTN) ($1972.00)
SB ($1548.00)
BB ($2160.00)
Pre-flop: ($24, 4 players) Hero is BTN  
1 fold, Hero raises to $41, 1 fold, BB calls $31
Flop:    ($105, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $70, BB raises to $200, Hero calls $130
Turn:  ($505, 2 players)
BB bets $350, Hero calls $350
River:  ($1,205, 2 players)
BB bets $1,567.50, $1,381 to Hero ($1,381)?
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pocketfours
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One of those spots where I like to flip a coin. Check behind flop is a good alternative line btw.
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griffey24
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What's his 3bet stat? does he flat overpairs pre ever?
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Alexos
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Originally Posted by griffey24
What's his 3bet stat? does he flat overpairs pre ever?
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too small a sample size... i just know he's 33/23/3.8 over 72 hands or so
no idea how he plays basically but id expect ppl to 3bet overpairs generally, or not go for three streets of value with 88-TT type hands. So I guess im mostly worried about 5x, maybe JJ...
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meeloche
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Seems like a bad spot for him to be bluffing. Why you raising so much on the button?
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Alexos
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Originally Posted by meeloche
Seems like a bad spot for him to be bluffing. Why you raising so much on the button?
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Antes...I could still raise to 30 i suppose but the lineup was pretty strong in which case I make it bigger pre and play tighter.
so ure saying he has 5x, quad 3's like always? Are you ever including JJ+ in his range here or no?
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I think 200BB deep there are more hands in his flatting range than normally, especially implied odds hands
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Alexos
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yea i guess, i folded
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Renton
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i don't know how you could use this information but his pot building is pretty damn clumsy here.
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IowaSkinsFan
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This seems like a simple fold. IMO you have some 5's in your range and I don't see how he'd play a 5 differently. You can't give someone credit for bluffing enough here.
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sauce123
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yea lay it down i spose
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Renton
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i agree with fold but i can't help but think that calling 77 on the turn has gotta be terrible unless you are calling all the way down this time. From a game theory perspective you'll be folding over 90% of your range on the river if u call turn with 77 and fold everything but a 5 to this shove.
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meeloche
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You would be right if he was always firing the river. That however is not the case and impossible to actually calculate.
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Renton
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well of course you shouldn't be calling the same range on all streets, but it should taper. its a bad idea to take a range as wide as 77+ all the way to the river vs a good aggressive player.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I agree with fold turn as well. I'm so lazy with hh's nowadays.
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i think u can turbomuck the flop vs 90% of players. vs the other 10% i like ur line of call call fold any river
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