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Old 02-16-2008, 09:11 PM     Post subject: bluff! #1 (permalink)  
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POKERSTARS GAME #15330481245: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2008/02/16 - 16:59:01 (ET)
Table 'Alstede' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Sauce123 ($3587 in chips)
Seat 3: Festivuss ($5342 in chips)
Seat 4: NMcNasty ($2000 in chips)
Seat 6: DuyTheMaster ($3049 in chips)
Festivuss: posts small blind $10
NMcNasty: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sauce123 [Ah 8d]
gcnmoo joins the table at seat #5
DuyTheMaster: folds
Sauce123: raises $50 to $70
Festivuss: raises $195 to $265
NMcNasty: folds
Sauce123: raises $355 to $620
Festivuss: calls $355
*** FLOP *** [Kd 7c Qc]
Festivuss: checks
Sauce123: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd 7c Qc] [As]
Festivuss: checks
Sauce123: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kd 7c Qc As] [Jc]
Festivuss: bets $800
Sauce123: raises $2167 to $2967 and is all-in
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:13 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 You're repping clubs I take it, but wouldn't he expect you to bet a flush draw on an earlier street in this hand as a semibluff given the strength you showed pre?
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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lol clubs
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:46 PM #4 (permalink)  
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lol clubs
I mean this obviously depends on how he perceives you. If he'd respect the fact that you have clubs or TT in this spot, but from your posts it seems like ppl don't give you credit so I can't see him folding a strong two pair/set on this board which he likely has given PF.

As played, why not just bet the turn when you spike your A?
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:14 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 Some reads? Never have played with festivuss.

Seems kind of weird. I think both of your ranges are pretty weird here. You look like you have a weak hand made hand the entire way and then suddenly bluff which makes no sense so that seems good. I think he's going to have a tough time thinking you'd ever bluff in this spot.

Why even sit at this table though? Isn't it pretty much 3 solid regs?
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:05 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 i think it sucks.
as for game selection, sauce>>>nmcnasty
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:19 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 The problem here with representing a flush is that you 4 bet pre and both the Qc and Jc are out so...what clubs can you represent? AcKc is very unlikely as surely you would bet them on the flop or at least the turn. So that leaves AcXc where X is 10 or below - if he knows how you play he must know you are capable you of fourbetting these as you 4 bet A8o, but if he doesn't know how you play i presume he doesn't think your 4 betting range includes many flushes with the way the hand played out and what is already on board.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:51 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 HES NOT REPPING CLUBS lol

i think the only combo of clubs sauce might show up with here is AKcc. they are kinda deep so sauce has lots of random shit that he can 4bet pre, give up on flop with, but then back into a straight and i think thats what hes trying to rep here mostly. i think shoving jj here would be worse than calling so i dont think u get credit for any sort of set in this situation and thats why i dont like it.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:14 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 At first glance and my analysis it looks like he has TT a lot.

If there are reasons you don't think he has TT (or T9s? some other Tx?)very much, than this is pretty sick.
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