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Old 10-07-2008, 02:18 PM     Post subject: AA - facing river donk, too thin? #1 (permalink)  
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 -At the time of this hand I actually didn't have that many reads on villain, other than we hadn't gotten involved much at all and I really hardly noticed him
-Now that I look up more of his stats, they definitely seem pretty nitty 16.6/8/2
-his river bet was around 330 into 600 and felt pretty blockish to me (esp since he like rarely has an 8 here) and felt his most likely holdings were KQ/KJ.
-Felt as though anything stronger than 8x would bet harder on river or even go for c/r given that I was showing a lot of strength
-after villain's donk lead there is about $1k left on river in his stack


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Hero ($2040.00)
CO ($1076.50)
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Pre-flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $30, 1 fold, BTN calls $30, SB calls $25, BB calls $20

Flop: ($120, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $75, 1 fold, SB calls $75, BB folds

Turn: ($270, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $165, SB calls $165

River: ($600, 2 players)
SB bets $330, Hero raises to $795
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I'd definitely just call on the river.

I think we have a really thin 3 streets of value here overall, so i like a threebarrel.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:04 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If you want to turn your hand into a bluff I think a shove is better. But I would just call and expect to see KJ and missed straight draws mostly.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:09 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 agree with what's been said

My issue with not raising is the spade river, lots of QKss, QTss got there, so if river is 8c im prolly raising.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:27 PM #5 (permalink)  
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If you want to turn your hand into a bluff I think a shove is better. But I would just call and expect to see KJ and missed straight draws mostly.
Definitely not a bluff at all here. Really just trying to make a smallish raise that KQ and KJ might feel committed to calling given how big the pot is.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:44 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 this would be a really bad and nonstandard way to play both kj and kq. id call and not be too happy about it
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 what does it mean when you say 'a really thin 3 streets of value" heard the term quite often can someone elucidate, cheers.
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:42 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 I think the problem here is that he knows that you know that he isn't bluffing here like ever, so it's pretty hard to rep a bluff with such a small raise. I think he could lay down KQ/KJ because of that.

A big raise would be better in that sense, but this is probably not the best spot for that either, especially against a nit.
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