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Old 10-15-2006, 01:29 AM     Post subject: 5-5-10NL - Deepstacked hand live game #1 (permalink)  
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Another hand from this live game I was playing in last night, I need to get better at playing deepstacked, anyone got some good litterature strategy posts on that? And anyways, here's the hand:

7 Handed.
BB - Someone
SB - Someone
UTG - Someone
MP1 - A very good LAG player who enjoys playing big pots - $13,000
MP2 - A very loose passive player, calling station who calls with any type of hand, usually bets when he hits his hand, might even overbet then. - $1,800
MP3 - Someone
Button - Me - $6,500

UTG limps for $20
MP1 raises to $100 - He's raising a LOT.
MP2 calls $100 as usual.
Me (KcKh) raise to $600

MP1 calls.
MP2 calls.
Everyone else folds.

Flop: 4s4c3s
Check to me
I bet $1,000 - should have bet more I guess
MP1 calls.
MP2 calls.

Turn: 4s4c3s2h
MP1 checks
MP2 goes all in for $200 more.

Do you just call this small bet here or do I make a good raise? What would you put these people on considering how I described them?[/b]
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Old 10-15-2006, 02:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I would raise a bit since MP1 likes to play big pots, is he the type to let you get your stack in when he holds TT-77 here? I would raise turn to 1500 and look to get it in on a non-A or 5 river.
 
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Old 10-15-2006, 04:00 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 your reraise preflop is kinda awkwardly sized.

If you make a standard reraise to 400 he'll call with a wide range but you'll be able to get away.

If you overbet reraise to 850, he'll probably not call with a very wide range, but you'll be so well paid that it doesn't matter much what the flop is.

But your raise to 600 not only told him that you had a huge hand and that you wanted to deny him proper implied odds, but also actually gave him the proper 10:1 he needed to call with pairs and have +EV. And given that you created an 1800 pot preflop, you are going to have a very hard time getting away if he does, indeed, flop a set.
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Old 10-15-2006, 05:01 AM #4 (permalink)  
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When saying MP1 likes playing big pots, I meant that he enjoys 3 betting a lot preflop with a wide range of hands as well as calling a lot of 3bets. He is a good player though, so there is no way he would go broke with a lower overpair in this spot thinking his hand was good.

Good point with the bet size, I hoped MP1 would fold to this while MP2 would call, MP2 calls pretty much anything preflop. I believed MP1 thought I would be able to get away from an overpair if he flopped a set, and cause of that he would fold. I do have position after all, and that makes it harder for him to get paid off. I'm not quite sure what the best raise size would be here though, as long as I'm able to get away from a set here 600 should be ok, the only argument for making it 400 would be that it's easier to get away, as I believe he'd put me on the same range wether it's 400 or 600. For 850 he has to fold, but that's getting too little value out of my kings I believe.
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My $1,000 bet, was kind of small so that I would be able to get away, but it's bad in the way that it gives fairly good odds for drawing, so it's not really optimal.
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Old 10-15-2006, 05:09 AM #6 (permalink)  
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And I don't think I can raise turn to $1500 when the pot is $5000, then he'll have 1:4.2 to call it.
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