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pocketfours
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11-26-2007, 11:39 PM
Post subject: 5/10 quiz: what is my hand?
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What is my hand and would you call my river shove if you were the BUTTON here with 8H,KH?
Hint: No clubs in my hand.
Seat 2: UTG ($927.00 in chips)
Seat 7: CUTOFF ($567.25 in chips)
Seat 8: BUTTON ($1,668.85 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO ($1050.00 in chips)
Seat 10: BB ($1,940.00 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
HERO posts blind ($5), BB posts blind ($10).
PRE-FLOP
UTG calls $10, CUTOFF folds, BUTTON calls $10, HERO bets $50, BB folds, UTG calls $45, BUTTON calls $45.
FLOP [board cards 9D,8C,10C ] pot (175)
HERO checks, UTG checks, BUTTON bets $10, HERO calls $10, UTG calls $10.
TURN [board cards 9D,8C,10C,KS ] pot (205)
HERO bets $125, UTG folds, BUTTON calls $125.
RIVER [board cards 9D,8C,10C,KS,2D ] pot (455)
HERO bets $860 and is all-in, BUTTON calls $860.
SHOWDOWN
HERO shows [ Xx,Xx ]
BUTTON shows [ 8H,KH ]
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bigspenda73
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I have a couple questions:
1. How balanced is your PF range out of the blinds? I.E. are you opening hands like sc's/small pps from time to time to balance an otherwise strong range?
2. What's your image and perception of the BTN?
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gabe
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AK or KQ
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by gabe
AK or KQ
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sauce123
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kk, 22
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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Alexos
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KJs+, KQo+
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zook
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AJ, KK. I call.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Revised:
KK, AJ, KJ+
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Numbr2intheWorld
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KK, probably air though. If you wanted to try and rep AK you should've bet pot on the river.
I wouldn't try and bluff someone who would play a hand like this.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Actually nvm i just think you're always bluffing
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
I have a couple questions:
1. How balanced is your PF range out of the blinds? I.E. are you opening hands like sc's/small pps from time to time to balance an otherwise strong range?
2. What's your image and perception of the BTN?
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1. I might be going after limpers with a very wide range. I hate to play sc's oop though, and in this spot I'm probably opening with any two broadway and all pairs. UTG seemed bad and I wanted to isolate.
2. BTN is unknown but I hate his play here. His flop play is simply ridiculous. I don't mind his river call, although he might just have been thinking "I don't know what villain has and I have two pair so I call".
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by gabe
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So a value-bluff? You don't think it's too thin here?
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by sauce123
kk, 22
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So you would fold the river then?
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sauce123
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Originally Posted by sauce123
kk, 22
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So you would fold the river then? |
i thought that you, being a good, tight player would not try to bluff a donk so therefore u have to have a made hand better than K8 which is consistent with ur line- all i came up with was 222 kkk
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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pocketfours
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Originally Posted by pocketfours
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Originally Posted by sauce123
kk, 22
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So you would fold the river then? |
i thought that you, being a good, tight player would not try to bluff a donk so therefore u have to have a made hand better than K8 which is consistent with ur line- all i came up with was 222 kkk |
Very well done sauce, I had 22. Thanks for the respect 
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Edit: I'm dumb
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kettleofish
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I have no place in this forum, but i'd just assume somebody that limp/called PF from the button, then bet $10 into a $175 pot when checked to was a retard.
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sauce123
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Originally Posted by kettleofish
I have no place in this forum, but i'd just assume somebody that limp/called PF from the button, then bet $10 into a $175 pot when checked to was a retard.
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A+, plz keep posting (no sarcasm btw)
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by kettleofish
I have no place in this forum, but i'd just assume somebody that limp/called PF from the button, then bet $10 into a $175 pot when checked to was a retard.
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oh oops thought he called the $10 bet, im dyslexic.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by kettleofish
I have no place in this forum, but i'd just assume somebody that limp/called PF from the button, then bet $10 into a $175 pot when checked to was a retard.
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i don't think anyone minds someone making a humble post.
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gabe
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Originally Posted by gabe
AK or KQ
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So a value-bluff? You don't think it's too thin here? |
im not saying its what you have but its pretty much the only two things i would show up here with
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Genitruc
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sry dunno if you ve already spilt the beans cuz haven t read replies but it looks to me like you have either   or are bluff-overplaying  
I guess i flip a coin
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by gabe
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So a value-bluff? You don't think it's too thin here? |
im not saying its what you have but its pretty much the only two things i would show up here with |
The question was guess what you think he has not what you would have.
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kettleofish
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Sauce, anyone else that ruled out JQ, can i ask why? Does a good player always lead flop, or C/R in that spot because of the club draw? Probably bets more on turn as well?
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griffey24
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I haven't read the replies yet so not sure if you said your hand yet.
But based on turn and river it seems like QJ. I think it would probably have to be QJ suited for you to raise out of blinds. BUT flop rules out QJ I think cause I doubt you'd check and flat call on such a drawy board where so many cards can kill your action on the turn.
I can see KQ/AK firing the turn out and river, but I feel like the river overbet is almost turning your hand into a bluff with just tptk on this kinda board.
Maybe some low/mid pair tryin to rep the K on the turn and keep repping on the river. I can see 77 going crazy like this on turn/river when the draw didn't come in. 22 would be sick.. but I think thats possible as well.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by kettleofish
Sauce, anyone else that ruled out JQ, can i ask why? Does a good player always lead flop, or C/R in that spot because of the club draw? Probably bets more on turn as well?
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99.9% of the time multiway with QJ on that board we want to cbet or c/r.
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pocketfours
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Sauce, anyone else that ruled out JQ, can i ask why? Does a good player always lead flop, or C/R in that spot because of the club draw? Probably bets more on turn as well?
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99.9% of the time multiway with QJ on that board we want to cbet or c/r. |
Doesn't that go for KK as well?
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pocketfours
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So a value-bluff? You don't think it's too thin here? |
im not saying its what you have but its pretty much the only two things i would show up here with |
Ok, so does it mean that you think I misplayed my deuces?
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gabe
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The question was guess what you think he has not what you would have.
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so why do you think i would post what i would take that line with?
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