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griffey24
Old 12-31-2007, 10:27 PM     Post subject: 5/10 pounds, obvious value bet.. facing push #1 (permalink)  
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 -No reads on villain, only have 40ish hands on him
-he's running 38/38/4 over that small sample size
-Is river value bet ok even though my hand is faceup?
-easy fold on river, even though my hand is obvious?

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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:17 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Your hand isn't face up.

I definetely bet the river, i bet the turn sometimes too.

River... bleh his raise makes no sense and your hand is obvious, idk im such a fish to unknown's overbet bluffing i call.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:24 PM #3 (permalink)  
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i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl
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 I'm sorry my first post may have been a bit confusing.

When you bet the river i don't think he exclusively will put you on Ax, but i do think your range is very weak.
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I agree with ISF that our range is weak, but doesn't that make an allin overbet less likely to be a bluff? From his point of view he probably only needs to make a fairly small raise or bet out to push us of our Ax/Kx/Flush draw doesn't he? The fact hes shoving for probably twice as much as he needs to, to get the job done Vs most of our range makes me think its more likely to be a value shove. He also has pretty donkish stats so its not unlikely he slowplayed something and then made an "oh shit i missed value" shove.
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i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl
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i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl
Ok I expected people to comment on the bet size. I think I'd still be just as confused had I bet $180 instead of like $110ish.

And if we think a smaller bet would be called by a wider range of worse hands AND induce bluffs, I can't see how "betting like a girl" is necessarily bad?

I'm finding it hard to put him on a range here though, that would check the turn and c/r the river.
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Old 01-05-2008, 07:49 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i would call i guess but i never get into these situations because i never bet like a girl
Ok I expected people to comment on the bet size. I think I'd still be just as confused had I bet $180 instead of like $110ish.

And if we think a smaller bet would be called by a wider range of worse hands AND induce bluffs, I can't see how "betting like a girl" is necessarily bad?

I'm finding it hard to put him on a range here though, that would check the turn and c/r the river.
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