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zook
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09-16-2008, 07:33 PM
Post subject: 5/10 - KQs in 3bet pot turns top two - 200bb deep
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Villain is a reg running 19/14/2.2, 3bets 5.5%, cbets 75% (80% after 3betting over a smallish sample). We have some history and he might think I'm bluffy/spewy. The fish at this table is UTG who's been limping and folding to my iso raises a lot. I've been very active for the 10 or so orbits I've been at the table but haven't shown anything down.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
Hero (MP) ($1952)
CO ($2000)
Button ($2035)
SB ($2615)
BB ($2057)
UTG ($2146.75)
Preflop: Hero is MP with Q , K
UTG calls $10, Hero raises to $45, 1 fold, Button raises to $160, 3 folds, Hero calls $115
Flop: ($345) 10 , Q, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks
Turn: ($345) K (2 players)
Hero bets $280, Button raises to $700, Hero...
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Fnord
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What does his flop check mean?
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by Fnord
What does his flop check mean?
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AJ makes the most sense I feel like. Though given that you're deep, I can see him checking through wtih most/all draws: J9, flush draws even.
This might be mega nitty, but I prob just dump this. There's no good way to handle this OOP and sooooooo many river cards are just gonna be brutal.
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griffey24
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Oh and I prob fold pre to the 3-bet pre, OOP, given he only 3-bets 5.5%. I'd call if he had been getting out of line more recently though from the button.
Not really the type of hand I wanna be playing OOP deep with. We can't even jam our draws properly this deep.
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zook
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Originally Posted by Fnord
What does his flop check mean?
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Well, I think it means he has a medium strength hand, something with some equity but that he doesn't feel comfortable stacking off with on the flop.
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Renton
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seems like a real easy fold pre
i guess call here and check something on the river, u can still hit a fh imo
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nutsinho
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his most likely hand is a small flush so you should probably fold
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afaik you can 4bet preflop if you feel like it. I definitely wouldn't call anyways. As played I fold also.
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Alexos
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sucks but i just muck this preflop 80% of the time
as played i think you have to fold
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Genitruc
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haven t read replies but I'm assuming you're asking whether to shove or just call?
I shove. If he has AJ or J9 I just curse the gods.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Genitruc
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wow just read replies maybe i sux at teh pokerz
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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pocketfours
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I'd rather c/r than b/f.
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
I shove. If he has AJ or J9 I just curse the gods.
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You see the flush right?
This isn't the best time to just jam 200bb's cause "he checked through the flop, so can't have the flush" type thing.
Though the more I see posts like these, the more I think checking through flops with FD's is pretty sick, since it gets like zero zero respect when you spike it.
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Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
I shove. If he has AJ or J9 I just curse the gods.
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You see the flush right?
This isn't the best time to just jam 200bb's cause "he checked through the flop, so can't have the flush" type thing.
Though the more I see posts like these, the more I think checking through flops with FD's is pretty sick, since it gets like zero zero respect when you spike it. |
Yeah, fast play is the new slow play, and checking draws is the new jamming draws
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zook
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For your interest, he had KK and you can't have my sn.
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