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Irisheyes
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03-25-2009, 10:49 AM
Post subject: 5/10 flop cbet size
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Been thinking about this hand for the last while. I think I like $222 on flop and then shove almost every turn best but I'm torn because this probably means I would have to bet/call flop which is less than ideal. Any other lines?
Villain is a good reg 24/20/4. He folds to 3bets 63%. I don't think we have any history.
$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
BTN ($1687.80)
Hero (SB) ($1034.25)
BB ($1288.45)
Pre-flop: ($15, 3 players) Hero is SB  
BTN raises to $30, Hero raises to $110, BB folds, BTN calls $80
Flop:    ($230, 2 players)
Hero ($924.25)?
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Fnord
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$160, not even thinking much about the turn.
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Irisheyes
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Code:
Board: Kc 6s 7s
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.331% 34.17% 00.16% 10826 50.00 { 8c6c }
Hand 1: 65.669% 65.51% 00.16% 20754 50.00 { 77, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, KJs+, QsJs, QsTs, JsTs, Js9s, Tc9c, Ts9s, Ts8s, 98s, KQo }
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IowaSkinsFan
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its prob 22+ not 77+.
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Irisheyes
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That's meant to be a flop shoving range, you think he shoves the flop with 22+?
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griffey24
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I'd prob b/f flop if shoved on, but likely ship/bet turn if called.
I don't think we're getting 2:1 on a flop call here... but I think a ton of his turn range is mid type pairs. Depends on image and if he can fold those though.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
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I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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IowaSkinsFan
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Oh nvm i thought you were doing his preflop calling range for some odd reason.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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i don't bet
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Alexos
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i half pot it and barrel lots of turns (sizing from 1/3 pot to 2/3 pot depending)
25% i just check it
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by Massimo
i don't bet
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I think this guy will be very difficult to play a c/c flop line against but I'm open to suggestions.
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by griffey24
I'd prob b/f flop if shoved on, but likely ship/bet turn if called.
I don't think we're getting 2:1 on a flop call here... but I think a ton of his turn range is mid type pairs. Depends on image and if he can fold those though.
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You don't mind having 1.3 times the pot on the turn or whatever it will be?
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griffey24
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In practice I probably more often do what alexos is suggesting.
100 into 230 in flop, 200 into 430 on turn and 600 into 800ish on river.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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gabe
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if u 3 bet alot u shouldnt be betting large
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bet like 130 on these flops as ur standard. then u can bet/call or b/f or c/f depending on the turn card. theres no real need to set up a potsized turn bet situation. if u check i can see jamming or folding vs a bet but c/c is not going to play out very will for u with this hand.
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TheLeakyFaucet
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Alexos
i half pot it and barrel lots of turns (sizing from 1/3 pot to 2/3 pot depending)
25% i just check it
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Yeah this sounds pretty good...
also what nuts said wouldnt wanna be c/c if we are chking
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