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5/10 - AK vs. two loose passives

  
 
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:44 PM     Post subject: 5/10 - AK vs. two loose passives #1 (permalink)  
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UTG is 30/9/1 over 170 hands. More post-flop stats that might be relevant if the sample size weren't so small are 20% WTSD and 33% river aggression frequency. No real reads. Button is a fish, 32/1/1 over 120 hands, calls a lot pre-flop and fold to c-bets, no other history.

Flop I figure hit my range much harder than theirs and I have outs vs. hands they call with. Turn I'm tempted to bet b/c he's passive, but I can't think of what worse hands call. On the river I'm lost.

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UTG: $920.50
UTG+1: $467
CO: $437
Button: $1000
SB: $513
Hero: $1027

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K A
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $60, UTG calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: T 8 Q ($190, 3 players)
Hero bets $130, UTG calls, Button folds.

Turn: A ($450, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: T ($450, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $450, Hero...
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:04 PM #3 (permalink)  
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bet turn, they still call with all their broadway combos
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You can't check that turn
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bet turn, they still call with all their broadway combos
KQ/QJ/JT? I mean, I assume a 30/12/1 is bad, but not that bad.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:33 PM #6 (permalink)  
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no way they fold QJ on that turn, they have pair and OESD !!! hell i dont fold that most of the time
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no way they fold QJ on that turn, they have pair and OESD !!! hell i dont fold that most of the time
Missed that. But I still don't think we're getting value from more than one hand.
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if you thought check folding the turn was viable (which i dont think you do since you are considering the river), then bet/folding sucks even worse, yea.

BUT if you are planning on putting more money in on this turn (i would) then betting gets money out of worse hands and c/cing doesnt
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I have seen the light. ty gabe.
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