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01-19-2008, 03:36 PM
Post subject: 5/10 20 Buck
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Straight Flush
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Honestly I don't know much about 20 buck besides that i hear he is insane. We have played together a little bit. My image is pretty straightforward and relatively tight preflop. 20 Buck has been threebetting me a lot pre.
PokerStars Game #14668440927: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/01/19 - 11:27:28 (ET)
Table 'Vindobona IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toprope98 ($1059.75 in chips)
Seat 2: heybude ($990 in chips)
Seat 3: 20 Buck Spin ($970 in chips)
Seat 5: nemuii ($1573.50 in chips)
Seat 6: pacopil ($330 in chips)
heybude: posts small blind $5
20 Buck Spin: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heybude [9h 9s]
nemuii: folds
pacopil: folds
toprope98: folds
heybude: raises $20 to $30
20 Buck Spin: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qh 2c]
heybude: bets $40
20 Buck Spin: raises $80 to $120
heybude: calls $80
*** TURN *** [Qd Qh 2c] [7c]
heybude: checks
20 Buck Spin: bets $220
heybude:
Both bets were pretty instant though he seems to act fast with all his moves.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Flop is very standard right? I mean im cbetting air a lot here obv.
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griffey24
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If I had a Q here I would often lead turn here for about 200, since if I had a strong Q here I wouldn't want to risk the turn checking through. So with 99 I prob do the same and lead the turn 200ish.
If he flat calls the turn lead, I likely c/c river, and if he raises I'll probably dump it.
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gabe
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its so easy to bluff 2/3 pot bets on flops like that
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by gabe
its so easy to bluff 2/3 pot bets on flops like that
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I'm interested on complete reasoning on this, as I don't grasp exactly why a smaller bet here is easier to bluff.
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sauce123
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i think is fine and u should fold turn
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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wufwugy
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20 buck is probably good enough to realize that this board is not the kind to bluff, yet not good enough to know that you're thinking he may bluff it.
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Bmxicle
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ISF why do you alwasy get a boner over gabes posts?
As for the hand, i would normally fold the turn, but against a select few ops i would call, and if i do so i sure as hell am calling any non-ace river.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by Bmxicle
ISF why do you alwasy get a boner over gabes posts?
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I feel like gabe always gives me good advice and when he says something that doesn't make sense to me i ask a question.
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Bmxicle
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hehe sorry about that drunk post
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IowaSkinsFan
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hehe sorry about that drunk post
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lol its fine
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gabe
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this hand is kinda like that marshall hand. its easy for him to bluff but you always feel stupid when he has it. i dont know, its close.
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nice, apparently i have to post 10 times before i can send pms so forgive me...
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ten!
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Originally Posted by Poker_jedi
nice, apparently i have to post 10 times before i can send pms so forgive me...
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Ban plz
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Poker_jedi
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I just signed on to the site. I was trying to get in touch with someone through a pm, but it said I needed 10 posts before pming. Didn't mean any harm through it. Sorry. Posts from now on will be valid.
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If this is the same Poker_jedi who is a midstakes cash reg, 5/10 on FT, then cool.
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If this is the same Poker_jedi who is a midstakes cash reg, 5/10 on FT, then cool.
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No. This is Poker_jedi from Party Poker 4 years ago. I'm thinking of coming back to the internet poker scene.
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Wtf.. isn't Poker_jedi ilikeaces?
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poker jedi, didnt u crush 1/2 but then they opened big games and u ran bad? or something
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Originally Posted by gabe
poker jedi, didnt u crush 1/2 but then they opened big games and u ran bad? or something
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Yep. That's me!! Thinking of coming back. Not 100% sure yet. Haven't played internet in a long time. I have many more responsibilities now, then I did back then. Not nearly as much time. Would probably be for like a couple of times/month or so.
To the above poster, I was Poker_jedi on PP from mid 2003 to early 2005. Then I left. Ilikeaces took the name pokerjedi86 on PP after my departure. It seems he has done very well for himself. I have actually sent him a pm b/c frankly I'm looking for some help with some stuff. Particularly how to adjust to the 100xBB max buy-in which really hurt my game, and I never took the time to readjust. A couple of months after the switch on Party Poker, I just left and went into hibernation, Obi Wan Kenobi style. It seems ilikeaces at first also had some trouble with the switch but recovered so I was hoping he could give me some pointers.
There is something that perhaps the forum can help me with...How is FullTilt and PokerStars legal? I thought Bush passed a law making it illegal. That really deterred me from playing, but then I found out there were still some poker sites online. At first I thought it was probably only foreign players playing or people with bank accts outside US. So let me ask, how can US players still play poker online, and it not be illegal????
Thanks for your help guys. Post responses here or pm me if you have questions/comments.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Yo,
Pretty much the bill that passed did nothing besides make the games a hell of a lot tougher. The UIGEA only was made to prevent financial institutions from knowingly funding internet gambling sites. Fortunately, its impossible for them to track every check, and e-checks has become a deposit method for many. If you look in the poker news section here, you'll see an article about how congress is going to reevaluate the bill because it has seemingly done nothing.
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meeloche
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wait so are they gonna change it to make it illegal to play or we're good to go ship the dough?
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ilikeaces86
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Just thought I would stop by say hi and onto the hand I fold usually....withought history.
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Marshall28
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
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Originally Posted by gabe
its so easy to bluff 2/3 pot bets on flops like that
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I'm interested on complete reasoning on this, as I don't grasp exactly why a smaller bet here is easier to bluff. |
its mad easy to bluff cuz what hands are you bet/calling on the flop that you are checking on the turn? its like gabe said ... it's really easy for him to bluff here, or value bet you thinly since he has position, and he can control the size of the pot since he took the initiative on the flop.
against a player like this if im tangling i like to just put the 3rd bet in on the flop and hope to get him to try to jam w/ a merging weaker pair or jam w/ a pure bluff since my line looks fishy.
what can u really do, u can check call the turn again, but it's 100% guessing game on the river if he fires again, and just calling to hope he shuts down i know u know is inherently bad too.
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