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Old 11-28-2008, 09:20 AM     Post subject: 4/8 Optimistic calldown? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 24/18/2.6 seems decent, 1kNL reg. cbet stat is 60%. He steals 30% from the CO.

$4/$8 No Limit Holdem
5 players
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Stacks:
BTN ($1115.00)
SB ($792.00)
BB ($1604.40)

Pre-flop: ($12, 5 players) Hero is
1 fold, Tidien raises to $23, Hero calls $23, 2 folds

Flop: ($58, 2 players)
Tidien bets $40, Hero calls $40

Turn: ($138, 2 players)
Tidien bets $104, Hero calls $104

River: ($346, 2 players)
Tidien bets $272, Hero calls $272

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Old 11-28-2008, 01:01 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think it is optimistic, especially if villain is capable of somehow barreling JJ+ here for value.

I'd almost rather call down on Q72 board or something, cause villain might think he can actually get us off a hand. On QQ7 I feel like he might/should be worried that we're slow-play calling down Qx and might not go crazy tripling bluff.

Depends on reads of villain I guess.
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't see how villain can profitably bluff the river, since you are almost never on a missed draw here. He certainly should not value bet A7 either, since your weakest calling range is like TT-88/67s/78s. You don't have an underpair here ever I hope?

Folding turn seems standard, but I think calling turn and folding river is acceptable in this spot as well (he might bet the turn with A7 or fd but check the river).
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Old 11-28-2008, 04:01 PM #4 (permalink)  
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k ty guys. Thats pretty much what I thought.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:38 PM #5 (permalink)  
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lol id like always get to the river and sometimes fold it-
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:08 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'd fold, but calling is fine since every draw missed.
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yea, not to optomistic, as i think he would only have a pair of sevens at the most or even two pairs, but whatever the outcome was I would like to no.
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