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Old 12-03-2006, 09:53 PM     Post subject: 3-bet this flop? 10/25 deep HU #1 (permalink)  
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Stage #508272381: Holdem No Limit $25 - 2006-12-03 17:44:01 (ET)
Table: ABILENE (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 8 - IWIND ($7236 in chips)
Seat 6 - PRODIGY_X ($9143.10 in chips)
IWIND - Posts small blind $10
PRODIGY_X - Posts big blind $25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to IWIND [Kh Kd]
IWIND - Raises $65 to $75
PRODIGY_X - Calls $50
*** FLOP *** [3s 3d 7s]
PRODIGY_X - Checks
IWIND - Bets $125
PRODIGY_X - Raises $350 to $350


I'm pretty sure he's able to 4-bet a draw against me, as well as a 3, should I still 3-bet this flop though, or just call? I feel I'm loosing value by just calling, but by 3-betting I might have to make a real tough deciscion here or on a later street.
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:26 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I usually just call and raise a non spade turn.
 
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:05 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I called, but the turn was a spade!
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:31 PM #4 (permalink)  
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this really depends on how he is playing..

was it the king of spades?? you might be able to fold depending on what he does
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was it the king of spades??
for some reason this was hilarious.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:07 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Unfortunately it was not the king of spades, it was a 9 I think. He fired 700, and I decided to call, planning to fold to a big bet on the river, thinking he might try to rep the flush on turn but wouldn't dare to bet river strong without that or a FH.

Anyways, I think the flop is the most interesting still, you've played the guy gabe, do you 3-bet him here? I'm still thinking 3-betting might have been the best move, even thought I might be put to a tough decision later.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:13 PM #7 (permalink)  
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And he was playing very aggressively, and so was I, and at this point he was probably starting to get frustrated as he'd gone from +8k to -2k vs me the last 20 min, playing him on 2 tables.
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Unfortunately it was not the king of spades, it was a 9 I think. He fired 700, and I decided to call, planning to fold to a big bet on the river, thinking he might try to rep the flush on turn but wouldn't dare to bet river strong without that or a FH.

Anyways, I think the flop is the most interesting still, you've played the guy gabe, do you 3-bet him here? I'm still thinking 3-betting might have been the best move, even thought I might be put to a tough decision later.
i dont think i usually 3 bet, i would just call all his bets (maybe not a river push)and bet if he ever checks. he has a wide range here and i dont want to get stacked for such stacks with just KK.
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Old 12-04-2006, 10:16 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Yeah, we're pretty much thinking the same then, apart from that I decided to check behind on river when he checked to me. River was a ten, not spade. He had 55, probably figured it was no good when I called flop and therefore bluffed turn.

About river push, he pushed 4k into a 2k pot earlier the session with 8 high on a paired board of rainbow low cards, then I actually also had KK and folded. And I probably would have folded KK here too to a push.
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