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bdawg56kg

10-01-2006, 09:48 PM Post subject: 3/6. Four thin calls.

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1) Villain seems unremarkable, probably not very good.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($661.20)
SB ($501.36)
Hero ($697.59)
UTG ($273.10)
MP ($125.25)
CO ($188)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, T

. SB posts a blind of $3.
4 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $16, SB calls $16.

Flop: ($44) 3

, 3

, 7

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $36, SB calls $36.

Turn: ($116) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($116) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $96.25, Hero calls $96.25.

Final Pot: $308.50

2) Villain doesn't seem very good. He has been calling my pf raises regularly for the last few orbits. Is this spewwww?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($871.30)
BB ($621)
Hero ($1024.74)
MP ($409.24)
Button ($186)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3

, 3

. SB posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises to $22, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $19, 1 fold.

Flop: ($50) Q

, 4

, Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $36, SB calls $36.

Turn: ($122) 8

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($122) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $150, Hero calls $150.

Final Pot: $422

3) Villain is 28/18 over a small sample. Seems decent.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($579)
MP ($250)
Button ($791)
SB ($979.50)
BB ($1014.58)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

, 4

. SB posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $19, 1 fold.

Flop: ($50) 8

, 2

, T

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $36, SB calls $36.

Turn: ($122) 5

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($122) 2

(3 players)
SB bets $96, Hero calls $96.

Final Pot: $314

4) Game has just broken down so we're HU, and this guy is pretty terrible. He may be getting frustrated by my aggression.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($155.15)
Hero ($839.73)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, 4

. Button posts a blind of $6.
Hero raises to $18, Button (poster) calls $15.

Flop: ($42) 6

, 8

, T

(2 players)
Hero bets $36, Button calls $36.

Turn: ($114) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button calls $98.15 (All-In), Hero calls $98.15.

River: ($310.30) Q

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $310.30

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bdawg56kg

10-01-2006, 09:51 PM

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Okay, while you're reading this let me add one more hand.

5) Villain is 18/14/very aggro. I limped b/c of utg's limp (note his stack size).

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($916.64)
SB ($693.98)
BB ($150)
UTG ($189.66)
MP ($303.25)
Hero ($1000.28)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3

, 3

. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($24) A

, 3

, A

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $16, SB calls $16, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($56) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $45, Hero raises to $150, SB calls $105.

River: ($356) 4

(2 players)
SB calls $521.98 (All-In), Hero pukes...

gabe

10-01-2006, 10:05 PM

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gabe is an unknown quantity at this point

#5 isnt thin at all, its super easy call

the only one i like is #2, the others i just dont think you are good often enough

bdawg56kg

10-01-2006, 10:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

#5 isnt thin at all, its super easy call

Yeah, I was gonna make a seperate thread, then just figured what the hell and put it in this one.

sandstorm

10-03-2006, 11:36 AM

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#2 looks like a Q that tried to check-raise you on the turn, didn't get to do it and then makes a big bet to make up for it.

>3

this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs

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10-03-2006, 03:41 PM

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I absolutely hate #1-4, I am not good/bad enough to fold #5.

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10-03-2006, 03:54 PM

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I'd call #5 and fold all the others unless you have a read you are very certain about, if I'm going to make superthin calls I'd rather make them oop, like #4 is, but even then I'd like some kind of read on the guy.

gabe

10-03-2006, 04:08 PM

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ping/iwind, what do you put him on in hand 2? 44 sometimes but other than that i think thats always a missed flush draw

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10-03-2006, 07:06 PM

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yep you can definately make the call in number two against some players, but i really hate the rest. and yeha i pretty much always call the last one.

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10-04-2006, 01:18 AM

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I have been so depressed the last few days that I forgot about this post. Here are the results.

1) He had Q8o, MHIG.
2) He had Q7s, MHING.
3) He had 97s, MHIG.
4) He had 33, MHING. (bah, at least my read was right)
5) He had A2o, MHING.

I realize that most of these calls look absolutely terrible, and they are definitely not standard for me, but I have been seeing a lot of 'oop floating' recently, especially on super dry boards like the first hand.

Also, for #5, I really felt sick hitting the call button. For gabe and others that think this is an insta-call, what do you put him on? Keep in mind it's an unraised pot, and he is not an idiot. I really think if I had more time I could have folded it. I mean, he's definitely not shoving this river with a straight or trips...

bdawg56kg

10-04-2006, 01:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Iwind

if I'm going to make superthin calls I'd rather make them oop, like #4 is, but even then I'd like some kind of read on the guy.

Why do you prefer to make these calls oop? Checking oop and checking behind on the turn are pretty similar in that they both show a lot of weakness, don't you think?

Iwind

10-04-2006, 02:22 AM

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When you are OOP you are checking to him twice though, and that is showing more weakness then just checking behind turn in my opinion. Checking to him on river is kind of like saying "I'd like a free showdown", while checking behind on turn you still have the option to bet river. It's player dependent though, but at least from what I've seen players seem to have a good hand more often when betting into me on river than when they bet after me when I'm oop.

And in hand 2, 44 is possible yeah,67s, 55 and 88-JJ too as well as a queen sometimes I think. Some people will go for a turn check-raise with a Q here as well as the other hands.

bigredhoss

10-25-2006, 09:21 AM

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hate 2-4, cant explain why but I think #1 is fine..

#5 with no major read i think is actually very close

bigredhoss

10-25-2006, 09:27 AM

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out of all of them i like #2 least i think....whatever he has (44, 88, Q) i think he's trying to represent busted clubs way more often than he actually has busted clubs with that riv bet

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10-30-2006, 10:25 PM

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