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zook
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05-02-2008, 07:15 PM
Post subject: 3/6 - AK in 3bet pot
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villain is 25/19/3. I've seen him make a couple of bad hero calls but that's the only read I have.
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $3/$6 - 5 players - Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $703.05
Hero: $621
Button: $592.50
SB: $1610.10
BB: $511.75
Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K  A 
UTG raises to $21, Hero raises to $66, 3 folds, UTG calls.
Flop: 5  6 T ($141, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.
Turn: A ($141, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $102, UTG raises to $222, Hero...
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
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This is a pretty brutal spot. I know I would definitely take this line with all my hands that beat AK.
I think at best we're getting free rolled by AKs here. Given the size of the raise I'd say that type of hand is most likely.
I'd imagine a set of T's would raise harder to get any FD's out. I guess its possible he called like KQs OOP or something.
I don't like this spot.. but man such a small raise is hard to fold to. In the moment I probably call and re-evaluate.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I'd just fold, I think he simply made a mistake wanting you to spazz here.
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pocketfours
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Some interesting dynamics here.
The big problem here is that our hand is more or less on the top of our range. Now we can't bet if we are planning to fold virtually our entire range to a raise, right? I guess we could have a flush here, but that's really unlikely.
In order to find a PTO way to play this, I think I have to say check behind turn for pot control.
This could be P4's first theorem: Never bet or raise with the intention of folding to a raise/reraise in situations where your hand is in the top of your range. What do you guys think?
Edit: changed the wording of the theorem.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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On the hand: gahhhhhhhh. I don't fold in game but I should.
P4's: Your theorem isn't well thought out.
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gabe
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fold, but dont let them know what u had or you will be easily exploited
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The Odds God
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Flush
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fold and don't post it on forum 
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The secret to success in poker is to rig the odds in your favor.
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zook
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by The Odds God
fold and don't post it on forum |
don't worry, I didn't fold
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mcatdog
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I'm confused, can someone explain why this hand is at the top of our range? Seems like it shouldn't be that hard for us to have AK or a flush here.
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The Odds God
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Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
I'm confused, can someone explain why this hand is at the top of our range? Seems like it shouldn't be that hard for us to have AK or a flush here. |
how many people in the world would check a FD on the flop?
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The secret to success in poker is to rig the odds in your favor.
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Irisheyes
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not many but it's definitely something we should be doing.
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sauce123
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i would usually call preflop as played i fold
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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