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05-10-2006, 09:08 PM Post subject: 2 Hands to Contemplate!

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In the 1st hand I have no reads on the preflop re-raiser since he had just sat down at the table. Thoughts on my play are appreciated. Results in WHITE.

PokerStars Game #4892236824: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/05/10 - 16:56:38 (ET)
Table 'Lina II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: rpt2shreds ($108 in chips)
Seat 3: wayneplus6 ($121.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Styranger ($250.10 in chips)
Seat 6: [595-ESCAPE] ($394 in chips)
Seat 7: TheStig'58 ($400 in chips)
Seat 8: desoconnor ($243 in chips)
Seat 9: stedman_8 ($176.35 in chips)
stedman_8: posts small blind $2
rpt2shreds: posts big blind $4
THEPIRAT: sits out
TheStig'58: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to [595-ESCAPE] [Kc Kd]
wayneplus6: folds
Styranger: folds
[595-ESCAPE]: raises $12 to $16
TheStig'58: calls $12
desoconnor: calls $16
stedman_8: folds
wayneplus6 leaves the table
rpt2shreds: raises $12 to $28
[595-ESCAPE]: raises $366 to $394 and is all-in
TheStig'58: folds
desoconnor: calls $227 and is all-in
rpt2shreds: calls $80 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [7d 8s 6c]
*** TURN *** [7d 8s 6c] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [7d 8s 6c 3h] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
[595-ESCAPE]: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
desoconnor: mucks hand
[595-ESCAPE] collected $270 from side pot
rpt2shreds: mucks hand
desoconnor leaves the table
[595-ESCAPE] collected $339 from main pot
[595-ESCAPE] said, "uhh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $612 Main pot $339. Side pot $270. | Rake $3
Board [7d 8s 6c 3h 6h]
Seat 1: rpt2shreds (big blind) mucked [Qs Qh]
Seat 3: wayneplus6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Styranger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: [595-ESCAPE] showed [Kc Kd] and won ($609) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 7: TheStig'58 folded before Flop
Seat 8: desoconnor (button) mucked [Ac Ks]
Seat 9: stedman_8 (small blind) folded before Flop

The 2nd hand I was expecting a re-raise all in since I had him on AA-KK preflop. I think a cold call seems fairly obvious for a set and though my overbet might look like a bluff. He claims he had aces.

PokerStars Game #4892257174: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/05/10 - 16:58:59 (ET)
Table 'Andromeda' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: dchu220 ($386 in chips)
Seat 2: Blazed187 ($404.70 in chips)
Seat 3: [595-ESCAPE] ($390 in chips)
Seat 4: Monodon ($599.10 in chips)
Seat 5: pktJ's ($237.80 in chips)
Seat 6: dragonvvv ($454.20 in chips)
Seat 7: Chemteach ($437.10 in chips)
Seat 8: phattchumpy ($400 in chips)
Seat 9: Nicolai ($400 in chips)
phattchumpy: posts small blind $2
Nicolai: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to [595-ESCAPE] [5c 5h]
dchu220: folds
Blazed187: folds
[595-ESCAPE]: calls $4
Monodon: raises $14 to $18
pktJ's: folds
dragonvvv: folds
Chemteach: folds
phattchumpy: folds
Nicolai: folds
[595-ESCAPE]: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [5s Jd Qh]
[595-ESCAPE]: checks
Monodon: bets $37
[595-ESCAPE]: raises $83 to $120
Monodon: folds
[595-ESCAPE] collected $113 from pot
[595-ESCAPE]: doesn't show hand
Monodon said, "just aces"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $116 | Rake $3
Board [5s Jd Qh]
Seat 1: dchu220 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Blazed187 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: [595-ESCAPE] collected ($113)
Seat 4: Monodon folded on the Flop
Seat 5: pktJ's folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dragonvvv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Chemteach (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: phattchumpy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Nicolai (big blind) folded before Flop

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zenbitz

05-10-2006, 09:38 PM

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1st hand.... uh... I guess some times one of them will have AA, but the re-raiser only has 80 behind. You must push to isolate (even though it failed)

2nd hand .... I think you should lead out for an overbet, like 50 or so, instead of the c/r (I got this from D Brunson SS2) .
Villian bet pot and you c/raised him a real amount... what could you have that AA beats AQ or KK? Maybe, but you limp-call with these pre-flop? You could be on a semi-bluff with 9T or less likely KT. But a check/raise semi-bluff? Give the guy credit for a read here.

Or maybe he had some crap, and just is trying to make you think he made a good laydown.

Iwind

05-10-2006, 10:42 PM

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1st - No reason to push I think, just make it so you put the shortstack all in, then it's much more tempting for the QQ guy to come over the top.

2nd - Yeah, I also like leading with sets, but why the overbet though on this flop? It's not that draw heavy or anything. I like the weakish 1/2 to 2/3 pot lead more here.

ilikeaces86

05-10-2006, 11:22 PM

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Hand 1 is fine

Hand 2 lead flop for pot

gabe

05-11-2006, 12:09 AM

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gabe is an unknown quantity at this point

its hard to misplay KK preflop or a set in a raised pot

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