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Alexos
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08-06-2008, 07:36 PM
Post subject: 10/20 Turning my hand into a bluff
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Is this any good? Villain is a high stakes TAG reg, something like 23/18/1.8. I havn't played with him much so not sure about his tendencies or anything, just know that he plays rather straightforward. I have a good image at these stakes.
I'm repping a flush, FH..
$10/$20 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($2918.04)
UTG+1 ($1750.00)
CO ($2235.00)
BTN ($2520.87)
SB ($2077.00)
Hero ($2354.00)
Pre-flop: ($30, 6 players) Hero is BB  
4 folds, SB raises to $60, Hero calls $40
Flop:    ($120, 2 players)
SB bets $100, Hero raises to $285, SB calls $185
Turn:  ($690, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River:  ($690, 2 players)
SB bets $500, $500 to Hero ($2009)?
I shoved, ~$1250 more for him to call
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pocketfours
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It's a bit strange to rep the runner flush after you raise the flop. Your hand looks like a boat or air, and it's hard to give credit for a boat after you check behind the turn, and since it's BvB.
You certainly have a lot of fold equity so to me this looks decent, especially with a good image.
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Fnord
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What are you putting him on?
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Alexos
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When he bets river.. im guessing K9/A9/88+/5x, but pretty much never a flush.
I mean a flush isn't a big part of my range either, unless I bluff raised flop and got there on river. I'm just hoping my image helps my range here really.
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Fnord
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How wide is his SB opening range?
If his range is that tight, your flop raise is so sick profitable as a bluff.
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Alexos
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I'm talking about his range by river when he bets... not his flop range. I'm not sure what he opens SB with, ive hardly played with him
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Fnord
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I'd just look him up.
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Renton
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i hate it and i hate your flop raise
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Alexos
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
i hate it and i hate your flop raise
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yeah im not a fan of the flop raise either
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Alexos
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I'd just look him up.
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nooo this cant be right!
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Renton
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Alexos
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I'd just look him up.
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nooo this cant be right! |
Yeah and the fact that this is true is why the flop raise is so bad.
I honestly have no idea if this shove is good though, so I'd never try it.
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griffey24
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Yah I also really didn't like the flop raise in this hand.
I don't think we can call here, we don't beat much that's betting here at all. Fold > shove > call I think.
I think more interesting is if we should value bet this river when checked to. Too thin?
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zook
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I agree with Renton.
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Renton
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griffey its possible taht its more like fold > call > shove. Some people will fold no better hand here.
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bair
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shove > fold > call. i think his range is hugely weighted to A9 and he wont call. you could definitely have 67, 9ts, 34s, and other just weirdly played hands. checking back the turn with a boat isnt that crazy especially w/ 99 because its hard for him to make a hand.
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sauce123
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id need a lot of history of me owning someone's soul to make this bluff but i actually like it quite a bit for the reasons everyone else lieks it but i hate it cause ppl r fucking stations when they have pairs and pot odds
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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sauce123
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oh yea also alex i like this better when u know what he has which u/we dont
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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